Huanyang VFD Macro/ Plugin

[Dan911]

Thanks Dan,

I haven't shut down today only restarted so will make sure I do that as well.
Just out in the workshop creating the new config now.


Cheers
Peter

What I suspect what's happening is you changed your Sset field or override field. The plugin reads these fields.

[P.Passuello]

What I suspect what's happening is you changed your Sset field or override field. The plugin reads these fields.

Sset is reading 6000 on the DRO. I'm not sure where the override field is to check it.

Cheers
Peter

[Dan911]

Sset is reading 6000 on the DRO. I'm not sure where the override field is to check it.

Cheers
Peter

You need to go to screen edit and then click on the Sset field and confirm label number reads 869, then click on override field and confirm 233. You have a field #2000 that's showing your min rpm in pro file and your Sact field 20050, I'm fairly certain this is where your conflict is. If you want to make things simple reload UCCNC and make sure you change Sact field only to match HYplugin Sact settings.

Dan

[P.Passuello]

Hi Dan

Not having much luck
I have attached the new profile I have tested. It has nothing other than the VFD configuration on it using the HYTest2 plugin
I deleted UCCNC and deleted the UCCNC folder before reinstalling to make sure there was nothing there to corrupt it.
I also turned my PC off before installing.
I am getting the same results as before. when I push the spindle M3 button the VFD goes into run mode but the speed remains at 0.
entering S10000 does not change the speed on the VDF though Sset changes to 10000 Sact remains at 0 and so does the VFD.

As a final test to make sure i wasn't missing anything critical from my config since i did the minimun I dropped HY95 into plugins and restarted UCCNC.
The spindle started on command and I was able to set change speed no problem.
That is without changing any configuration at all on the plugin. Just opened UCCNC and press M3 button.

Cheers
Peter

[P.Passuello]

You need to go to screen edit and then click on the Sset field and confirm label number reads 869, then click on override field and confirm 233. You have a field #2000 that's showing your min rpm in pro file and your Sact field 20050, I'm fairly certain this is where your conflict is. If you want to make things simple reload UCCNC and make sure you change Sact field only to match HYplugin Sact settings.

Dan

Thanks Dan

I found the override field at last. The % speed.
While I have blown away the install but I can tell you the override value was 100%.
I also confirmed on this setup the Sset is 869, The Override is 233 and the Sact is 20050

If it in anyway helps I have attached the screenset I am now using for thsi test.

Cheers
Peter

[Dan911]

Hi Dan

Not having much luck
I have attached the new profile I have tested. It has nothing other than the VFD configuration on it using the HYTest2 plugin
I deleted UCCNC and deleted the UCCNC folder before reinstalling to make sure there was nothing there to corrupt it.
I also turned my PC off before installing.
I am getting the same results as before. when I push the spindle M3 button the VFD goes into run mode but the speed remains at 0.
entering S10000 does not change the speed on the VDF though Sset changes to 10000 Sact remains at 0 and so does the VFD.

As a final test to make sure i wasn't missing anything critical from my config since i did the minimun I dropped HY95 into plugins and restarted UCCNC.
The spindle started on command and I was able to set change speed no problem.
That is without changing any configuration at all on the plugin. Just opened UCCNC and press M3 button.

Cheers
Peter

Try this make sure you check settings in HYconfig and restart UCCNC twice and should work.

peter.rar.zip

[P.Passuello]

Try this make sure you check settings in HYconfig and restart UCCNC twice and should work.

peter.rar.zip

Hi Dan,

Gave it a try and it still fails.
The VFD goes into Run but the speed remains at 0.
I put my cable probe to the RS485 and listen and can hear the bursts of data.
There is a constant polling of data but when commands are send from UCCNC there is a definite difference to the sound I hear.
When it is in run mode and I enter a speed comand eg S10000 it doesn't sound like data is being sent from UCCNC.
I could be wrong on this but that is what it sounds like to me.

Since changing the HYTest2 profile with the 2 restarts didn't work I redid the test by created a fresh profile and went through the config process again just in case.
I also restarted the PC but with the same results.

I went through the VFD and rechecked it's settings. all are as you have in the document except PD0023 which I have set at 0 because I don't want the spindle to reverse.

A real head scratcher

I wonder if it could be a software version issue with the VFD?
Mine is version Ur 1.00 and is a 2.2kw VFD. (PD0181)

Is there any way of capturing the data sent out from the RS485 adapter?
A log file or similar.

Cheers
Peter

[JackBerkhout]

Hi Dan,
like Gerry, I noticed (and kind of like it) that the communication confirmation window didn't pop up at start, using hytest2.
All works without any problems.

Do you think it is a good idea to only get a window just in case of a communication failure?
As far as I know, the window will pop up anyway, if the communication fails (VFD disconnected).

BTW, for the record, I use this "JBtek USB to RS485 Converter Adapter ch340T chip"
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0..._detailpages00

Kind regards,
Jack.

[JopC]

Hi Jack,

Thanks for support!

what 3kW spindle motor do you have? (voltage, current rating)

220 / 10A

Can you post these parameters of the VFD?

PD003: 300
PD004: 300
PD005: 300
PD006: 2.5
PD007: 0.5
PD008: 220
PD009: 15
PD010: 8
PD011: 120
PD041: 3
PD070: 0
PD071: 20
PD072: 300
PD073: 120
PD141: 220
PD142: 10
PD143: 2
PD144: 3000
PD145: 2.0

Dont know if there is something wrong with them..

Do you read the RPM on the VFD display?

On VFD it shows 7200rpm

Attached also some screenshots.

Hi Kaspars,

what 3kW spindle motor do you have? (voltage, current rating)
Can you post these parameters of the VFD?

PD003:
PD004:
PD005: PD008:
PD006: PD009:
PD007: PD010:
PD011:
PD041:
PD070:
PD071:
PD072:
PD073:
PD141:
PD142:
PD143:
PD144:
PD145:

Do you read the RPM on the VFD display?
Assuming you have a 18000RPM Spindle motor (300Hz), for correct reading on the VFD, PD144 should be set to 3000. And PD143 (number of motor poles) most likely to 2.
Thank you very much!

[Dan911]

Hello Dan

Thank you for all the hard work you have put into making this plugin.
I have been trying to get it working on my setup but am getting curious results.
I downloaded the latest plugin version from the post above and installed according to the instructions contained within.
All seemd to go well except I get a "VFD not responding" message.
The curious thing is that the plugin works. I can stop and start the spindle as well as set its speed no problem.
Every 8 seconds the "VFD is NOT responding" message returns and stops me from changing the spindle settings until I click it away.
As soon as I do the spindle changes to the speed I set and I can turn it on, off change speed again until the next 8 seconds passes and the message comes back.
I have tried several versions of UCCNC and created a new profile from scratch with the same results.
I then went and tried Version HY95 of your plugin and the problem is gone. I don't get the VFD is NOT Responding message but neither have I received a VFD is connected message which I read I should see.
I concluded that maybe UCCNC was not reading from the VFD but the VDF was seeing the commands from UCCNC.
I know there is 2 way communication between the VFD and the PC because Mach3's plugin can read settings from the VFD and pressing the stop key on the VFD is sent back which Estops Mach3.
I am using Windows XP so that might be the issue.
Any gentle prod in the right direction would be appreciated.

Cheers
Peter

Hey Peter, there's quite a few things to check or I could change in plugin to see how your vfd responds but your problem is very inconsistent and I don't know in which direction to go. In your first post above you wrote new version plugin works well other than the no connection window pops up every 8 seconds.

I removed the polling connection test.

Now where we're at is the VFD starts on run command but not setting frequency. This gives me other ideas to look at but since it works in version 95 it eliminates that as being the possible cause for a solution. I thought for sure your problem was due to the unknown created field showing your RPM in the pro file and since you reloaded UCCNC has me lost. Rereading through post trying to make sense to come up with a solution I see you haven't tried or at least wrote shutting down VFD and restarting. I mentioned in one of my previous post I had to this to get my VFD to respond to the Hyplugin after switching back and forth from the Le royaume Mach3 plugin.

Dan

[JackBerkhout]

Hi Kaspars,
I hoped to find some wrong setting, but to me your settings do look right! No worries to smoke your spindle motor.
I'm a bit puzzled why your speed reading is too low by a exactly a factor of 3 (because that's the issue, right?).
You are sure you are setting the desired speed with say the command S18000 command on the MDI?
The Sset should then read 18000.
But to me it appears if the RPM of the spindle motor may actually match the display reading.
If you hear your spindle, can you estimate it runs 6000 or 18000RPM, when 18000RPM is set?
6000RPM sounds kind of calm on these spindels, and 18000RPM sounds kind of impressive.
This needs some more research, it must be something simple, really.
My spindle is a 1.5kW, not exactly the same. I have heard, some people had 4 motor poles on those 3kW spindles (PD143), but that would change the reading by just a factor of two.
Initially, your Sset will be set to low RPM (say 6000), and I have a feeling you didn't change the setting using the Sxxxxx command in the MDI lines (also use Enter)
Jack

[Dan911]

You can check your speed by setting your VFD to read HZ.

Set your RPM to 18000 in UCCNC and VFD should read 300hz

Dan

[JackBerkhout]

Hi Kaspars,
to do what Dan asks, you place the cursor in the MDI field, type s18000 and hit enter.
I'm sure you know, but your screenshot didn't reflect that, just to be sure.
Jack.

[P.Passuello]

Hi Dan,

Thank you for all your help with this. It is much appreciated.
It appears I have confused you but I have spent the evening trying to figure out what might be going on and I think I may have found something that may help get to the bottom of this issue.
It is probably best to disreard my previous posts and start fresh.

All my testing for this is based on the plugin HYTest2 since this is working ok for others here.
I am using an older laptop with windows XP SP3, running UCCNC version 1.2037 and a UC300ETH5LPT board.
I have repowered both the VFD and the PC before starting my tests.

I removed my ethernet cable to the UC300ETH5LPT board and start UCCNC which comes up in Demo mode.
I select the UC300ETH5LPT option and press continue.
UCCNC starts and after a second Sact changes from 0 to 6000 (the value Sset is set to 6000 with the overide at 100%)
I assume the value for Sact is being read from the VFD or somewhere else bacause it takes a second to update.
The VFD fires you and runs. (Woo Hoo)
I can change the speed using the override buttons or using S commands.
It works everytime I run UCCNC in demo mode.

I plug the ethernet cable back in and restart UCCNC
The software starts but the Sact remains at 0 even though nothing has changed in the setup.
When I push the spindle start button the VDF goes to run mode but the speed is 0
I cannot change the speed using either the override buttons or using S commands.
This has behaved like this everytime I run it ith the cable connected.

Is there a timing issue at play here?
It seems that communication is not being established between the VDF and the PC when the UC300 is plugged in.
I am wondering if having to deal with the UC300 is slowing the PC down.

I hope this helps narrow it down the issue.
Let me know what testing you would like done and I will get it done.
I live in New Zealand so am probably in a vastly different time zone from you but will do any testing you need ASAP

Cheers
Peter

[ger21]

Peter, what is your CPU usage at in Task Manager?

I plug the ethernet cable back in and restart UCCNC
The software starts but the Sact remains at 0 even though nothing has changed in the setup.

I believe that this is correct. The Sact should be 0 until the spindle starts spinning.


I've never attempted to run the spindle in Demo mode.
And the laptop I'm testing with is an i7 processor, so it's pretty fast.

[Dan911]

What is specs of laptop and does it meet UCCNC requirements?

The minimal hardware requirements for the computer are as follows:
– CPU frequency: minimum 1.8 GHz (duo or dual core is recommended.)
– Graphics card: OpenGL 1.3 or higher compatible
– RAM: minimum 1GB for XP and 2GB for all other supported OS.
– Hard drive space: minimum 16GB

[P.Passuello]

Peter, what is your CPU usage at in Task Manager?




I believe that this is correct. The Sact should be 0 until the spindle starts spinning.


I've never attempted to run the spindle in Demo mode.
And the laptop I'm testing with is an i7 processor, so it's pretty fast.

The neighbours probably think I'm crazy going out to the shed after midnight.
I checked theCPU usage and it peaks at 60% in both Demo and normal mode.

The Sact comes up before the spindle is started on my setup in Demo mode.
Most curious.

Is your RS485 a Prolific chiset or the CH340T chipset?

I might have to get my I7 out to the shed and give it a try to see if it works the same as yours or my XP machine.

Cheers
Peter

[P.Passuello]

What is specs of laptop and does it meet UCCNC requirements?

The minimal hardware requirements for the computer are as follows:
– CPU frequency: minimum 1.8 GHz (duo or dual core is recommended.)
– Graphics card: OpenGL 1.3 or higher compatible
– RAM: minimum 1GB for XP and 2GB for all other supported OS.
– Hard drive space: minimum 16GB

Mine is a Compac 6730B

Intel Core 2 Duo P8600 Processor (2.40GHz, 3MB L2 cache, 1066MHz FSB)
15.4-inch WSXGA+ anti-glare (1680 x 1050)
Intel GMA 4500MHD integrated graphics (up to 384MB shared memory)
2GB DDR2 800MHz RAM.
250GB 5400RPM Toshiba 2.5″ HDD

only 6% of HDD is used and it runs nothing but Mach3 and UCCNC.

Cheers
Peter

[ger21]

I have the CH340/341 chipset.

I would expect my CPU usage to be less than 10%? I'm at work right now, but I'll check this afternoon.

[P.Passuello]

I have the CH340/341 chipset.

I would expect my CPU usage to be less than 10%? I'm at work right now, but I'll check this afternoon.

I avoided that one. Didn't know if there were XP drivers available for that chipset or not but I use the Prolific ones on XP for work and they work fine.

I will be away from the computer for a while now.
It is 00:35 here so will check back in the morning.

Cheers
Peter