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    So the pendant available for the M and MX doesn't say much about it but I wonder if there is any reason it wouldn't work with a regular 1100 running path pilot.... Can't see it listed separately anyway and I would imagine it's pretty spendy if it was.

    Anyone using it?
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    Looks like it is an $1800 add-on for the M and MX mills and includes the controller, offsetting what would be the $800 cost for the standard controller. Looks pretty nifty but it's a bit too spendy for me as an 1100 Series 3 add-on even if it were available.



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    Default Re: Another pendant question

    See file:///C:/Users/ken/Downloads/TD10715_PathPilot_Operator_Console_770_1019A.pdf for the manual on the controller.



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    Quote Originally Posted by kstrauss View Post
    See file:///C:/Users/ken/Downloads/TD10715_PathPilot_Operator_Console_770_1019A.pdf for the manual on the controller.
    That's a link to your computer. Here's the link on Tormach's site
    https://www.tormach.com/support/wpdm...for-770m-m-mx/

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    Quote Originally Posted by kstrauss View Post
    See file:///C:/Users/ken/Downloads/TD10715_PathPilot_Operator_Console_770_1019A.pdf for the manual on the controller.
    That's a link to your computer. Here's the link on Tormach's site
    https://www.tormach.com/support/wpdm...for-770m-m-mx/

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    I was just wondering if the pendant alone (p/n 50363 according to that doc) was going to be available and if it would work with any version of the control and PP and not just the M / MX mills
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    My excuse is that someone was ringing my doorbell and I just pressed SEND without checking anything. My bad!



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    Default Re: Another pendant question

    Why not just order one of the Ninja Pendants? Much more control than the Tormach one. I've got three of them, one for the Slant Pro and two for the 1100Ms. Absolutely love them!

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    It would be nice if/when Tormach releases just the pendant. A MPG you could count on it working when pathpilot updates would be nice. Looks like Moonlight is trying to keep up with patches at least. VistaCNC just flat gave up. It wouldn't surprise me, or offend me if Tormach was actively making pathpilot only work with their hardware either. Hopefully they will have the new control panel available for the slant pro as well.

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    The a shame about the VistaCNC pendants not getting updates. I use one with UCCNC and it's ungodly good.



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    It should be possible to make a patch that works "for almost all new versions."
    The trick would be to get some user-installed code to run on start-up, and that code can check whether the patch is installed, and if not, re-apply it, using context patching.
    If the patch fails to apply cleanly, because exactly the bit that needs updating has changed, the patch could disable itself and display a message to the user before continuing with an un-patched start.
    This all has to happen before the linuxcnc process itself stats up, though, so that the Python code it loads is the patched version after an update.
    Just dropping a .desktop file in the startup folder is not sufficient, though, because there's a race condition between which starts sooner, the patcher or the PathPilot.



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    Quote Originally Posted by jwatte View Post
    It should be possible to make a patch that works "for almost all new versions."
    The trick would be to get some user-installed code to run on start-up, and that code can check whether the patch is installed, and if not, re-apply it, using context patching.
    If the patch fails to apply cleanly, because exactly the bit that needs updating has changed, the patch could disable itself and display a message to the user before continuing with an un-patched start.
    This all has to happen before the linuxcnc process itself stats up, though, so that the Python code it loads is the patched version after an update.
    Just dropping a .desktop file in the startup folder is not sufficient, though, because there's a race condition between which starts sooner, the patcher or the PathPilot.
    Pete has that with his pendant. He sends out an update patch to run each time that PathPilot has an update. Or at least he has to check and make sure it's compatible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokediver576 View Post
    Pete has that with his pendant. He sends out an update patch to run each time that PathPilot has an update. Or at least he has to check and make sure it's compatible.
    That's what I'm worried about now. Tormach changes something and all of a sudden my aftermarket peripheral no longer works unless the company updates their end. (as was the case with Vista) I can't imagine the Tormach one being cost effective but at least it'll probably stay supported
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