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    I saw the spec where it says upto 500 lbs table load for the 1100, but I am wondering who has the highest continuous load on their table. I've been playing with various ideas for fixture plates, and I have some MIC6. Enough to make two full work envelope specialty tooling plates. I've been struggling with how I want to cut them down and prep them when it occurred to me I have two 8 inch lock down mill vises on a shelf I haven't used since I tore down my old RF45 for salvage and future projects. With just minimal planning I could mount them on the table of the 1100 to easily take advantage 100% (+) of the machine's work envelope. With outboard jaw mounting they have a grip range of about 16 inches, and of course 8 inches with jaws normally mounted. Once I mount them I won't want to take them off. They weigh about 100 lbs each. (96 comes to mind) Now I can lift a lot more than that, but reaching into an enclosure with arms extended to place them on the table about maxes me out. I won't want to do that very often. Hence why they will likely stay there if placed. That means a permanent extra 200 lbs on the table. Sure, the spec says 500 lb work piece, but I don't think it means 500 lbs all the time for years.

    So who has the heaviest permanent load on their table?

    How many years have you run it that way?

    P.S. 8 inch vises do not compare to 6 inch vises. I haven't weighed the 6 inch lock down vises I have on the table of my Hurco KMB1, but they feel like a feather compared to those 8s. Yes I considered using the 8s on the Hurco, but I'd have to cut holes in my home made table top enclosure just to spin the screws. LOL.

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    I got to laying out the 8" on the table its just not going to work. I even looked at cutting the rear apron off the vise, but no go. It's just to darn big. I'd actually get less useable working envelope if I mounted it. I guess I'll be going with those two 6 inch vises off the Hurco after all. Nice thing about the Hurco is I can push the head in or out or even swivel it to cover every inch of the table, so while the 8 inch will be tight in the enclosure I can machine anything it can clamp. I think I can cover the hole for the handle with the skirt that covers the slides the doors ride on.

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    Default Re: CONTINUOUS - Table Load - 1100

    As an alternative approach, have you looked into the Pierson pallet systems? https://piersonworkholding.com/ The initial outlay is higher than the vises for sure but it is basically plug and play.

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    Default Re: CONTINUOUS - Table Load - 1100

    Quote Originally Posted by rowbare View Post
    As an alternative approach, have you looked into the Pierson pallet systems?
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    https://piersonworkholding.com/
    The initial outlay is higher than the vises for sure but it is basically plug and play.

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    I have looked at it, nd its nice, but as you said it just a little more than a couple vises I already have. Actually, I have several pieces of MIC 6 for a pallet setup I am building, but I want to make it on a machine I am currently working on.


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    Default Re: CONTINUOUS - Table Load - 1100

    The Kurt DX6 opens to 9" as do many of its clones (The Shars 690V is only 8.9") Still quite a bit more pricey than something already owned.



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    Well MY six inch vises don't open much past six inches. THANKS A LOT FOR GETTING MY HOPES UP GUYS. (Just kidding I already knew they didn't.) I got them cleaned up and oiled and setting on the table. They don't quite line up using the keys to make the optiomum use of the work envelope, but then I realized they really don't have to. I can always move the jaw plates to the outboard sides of the jaws and throw a piece of tooling plate on them.

    By the way, I never knew other vises opened further than their claimed size. I guess that's what I get for buying lower price import vises. My 4 inch have jaws a smidgeon less than 4 inches wide and open to a little over 4 inch etc.

    I can't find my hard jaws for the second 6 inch lockdown vise though. Its had soft jaws for years, but I'd really like to find the hard jaws for now. I guess I may have to make a set. It would be a good job for a surface grinder if I had one.

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    Default Re: CONTINUOUS - Table Load - 1100

    If you don't have a surface grinder, might you be better off buying a set? Unless they're weird screw spacing.



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