Tormach 1100M Info Possible Series 4!

[motoeng]

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With these new mills, you’ll be able to start cutting parts on the 770M for around $15,500 and $17,500 on the 1100M, with setups that include a power drawbar, and enclosure, basic tooling, and coolant.

Haha, nice I see they updated the release copy. I pulled up the parts maker package for the 770 and didn’t include the ATC or related components. I took off the ETS as well. Price came to around $16.5k.

[syscore]

Haha, nice I see they updated the release copy. I pulled up the parts maker package for the 770 and didn’t include the ATC or related components. I took off the ETS as well. Price came to around $16.5k.

An 1100 with stand, enclosure, PDB, controller, monitor, keyboard, and arm is $15,000. Add $1000 for shipping, and you are at $16,000. Not sure what tooling is included and if a vise is include, but the difference seems to be close to $1,000. Which isn't that bad for more Y, more HP and more RPM, let alone the improvements in the stand/enclosure.

Likewise, with the 770 as well. $13,000 plus shipping plus whatever tooling/vise they include.

[jttoner]

The Tormachs are basically bare bones or, as they like to put it, "a la carte."

[jttoner]

It's nice that the 1100s will be at least partially upgradable though I'd prefer a motor upgrade to servos. I watched the video but the goofy, mega-annoying background music made watching it painful to watch. Sure, I could've killed the sound but I like to hear the mill running. I know it's an old guy thing and admittedly nearly every youtube video I've watched is accompanied with goofy, mega-annoying "music."

[daniellyall]

Are they made in the US yet

[mountaindew]

An 1100 with stand, enclosure, PDB, controller, monitor, keyboard, and arm is $15,000. Add $1000 for shipping, and you are at $16,000. Not sure what tooling is included and if a vise is include, but the difference seems to be close to $1,000. Which isn't that bad for more Y, more HP and more RPM, let alone the improvements in the stand/enclosure.

Likewise, with the 770 as well. $13,000 plus shipping plus whatever tooling/vise they include.

My mill cost $800+ to ship! The overall cost difference might be even less.


No control pendent / puck shown. Wonder if they are going to change or upgrade that also!

[syscore]

My mill cost $800+ to ship! The overall cost difference might be even less.

Well, I allowed for $1000 shipping, for a mill, stand, enclosure, and all the pieces.

[Spinnetti]

No hints of the upcharge for servos... wonder if that is really worth it on this class of machines? (AC or DC servo? - I assume DC?)

[Dunc]

Quote:
With these new mills, you’ll be able to start cutting parts on the 770M for around $15,500 and $17,500 on the 1100M, with setups that include a power drawbar, and enclosure, basic tooling, and coolant.

I read that blog again and noticed it this morning. I was just coming back to edit my post

Curiously there is no mention of a stand in that updated version. So unless it's presumed to be included then I guess you'll be working on the ground for $17k or at regular height for $19k. If a stand is presumed included then the $17.5k price tag is appealing for sure.

EDIT: sigh, they keep editing that same blog post lol. Now the $17k price is attractive.

[pbreed]

From the details on their site...
>With these new mills, you’ll be able to start cutting parts on the 770M for around $15,500 and $17,500 on the 1100M, with setups that include a power drawbar, stand, enclosure, basic tooling, and coolant.

So includes stand, enclosure power draw bar etc... looks like it does not include the ATC.

[Bob La Londe]

Teaser Video

[motoeng]

I’ve got no need for rigid tapping, but the dark grey color of the MX models is highly appealing to me for some reason. If they’re within a thousand bucks of the comparable M model I’d probably get it for the color alone.

Curious to see if the MX models will have a unique PDB for the BT-30 spindle.

[smokediver576]

From the details on their site...
>With these new mills, you’ll be able to start cutting parts on the 770M for around $15,500 and $17,500 on the 1100M, with setups that include a power drawbar, stand, enclosure, basic tooling, and coolant.

So includes stand, enclosure power draw bar etc... looks like it does not include the ATC.

Depending on how much the ATC is this is looking better and better..... Was looking at getting a 770 but now with the 1100's larger work area, 7,500 rpm & 2hp it's got me rethinking. I think the MX is going to be priced more than I am willing to do right now so it may have to be an upgrade down the road.

[tmarks11]

Are they made in the US yet

LOL. You want made in the US, add 50-75% to the price.

And even then, it will just be "assembled in the US because they will be importing the castings, since there aren't too many domestic foundries these days.

[Spinnetti]

You know, even though bigger envelope and faster spindle, the servo version will be dangerously close to the HAAS minimill EDU version with the 6,000 rpm spindle and tool changer option which is a whole 'nuther class of machine... Hmm... Also, I was hoping to save some money by using my path pilot controller, but no dice. The new servo machine has a unique controller. Was hoping to see it at Airventure, but they aren't going this year

[footpetaljones]

You know, even though bigger envelope and faster spindle, the servo version will be dangerously close to the HAAS minimill EDU version with the 6,000 rpm spindle and tool changer option which is a whole 'nuther class of machine... Hmm... Also, I was hoping to save some money by using my path pilot controller, but no dice. The new servo machine has a unique controller. Was hoping to see it at Airventure, but they aren't going this year

Where are you seeing the new machine has a unique controller?

[syscore]

Where are you seeing the new machine has a unique controller?

It does use a different version (ethernet based) of the controller card than the series 3 uses (serial or parallel based), but I think you can buy it just as easily.

[TurboStep]

It does use a different version (ethernet based) of the controller card than the series 3 uses (serial or parallel based), but I think you can buy it just as easily.

I've been using the ethernet based mesa card with my existing controller since the beginning of the year - so that's not an issue. What's not clear to me (maybe I've just overlooked it) is whether the controller PC is still separate as before, or integrated into the machine like the with Slant Pro.
Step

[LGSM3]

Has anyone heard if these machines will be on linears or will they maintain dovetails?


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[syscore]

Has anyone heard if these machines will be on linears or will they maintain dovetails?


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Dovetails. The M series is the 3 series with a deeper (Y) table, stronger spindle motor and redesigned stand/enclosure. The MX series is an M series with Servos and an encoder on the spindle. An M is directly upgradable to an MX. A series 3 is not upgradable to an M. The bigger table wouldn't fit, nor (probably) would the stand/enclosure fit. I guess also, neither would the spindle/motor. But you can add the servos (that the MX will have) to a series 3. I suspect that requires replacing the stepper drivers as well.