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    My experience with my new Doosan lathe has been stellar and a comparable machine through Haas would of been $30k more. I'll buy more doosans.



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    Quote Originally Posted by sansbury View Post
    What’s your game here really? If you’re making a product, I’d look really hard at outsourcing that production to somebody unless there is a really good reason to DIY. The ROI on better sales and marketing will probably beat any machine. That said I know sometimes owning your manufacturing is part of your competitive edge.

    Just be sure—Too many guys spend 90% of their time thinking about how to make widgets and 10% how to sell them. You should be doing closer to the reverse. Also, the #1 reason businesses fail is insufficient working capital. Don’t spend so much on a machine for your best-case scenario that you can’t survive a few flat tires along the way.
    Not buying too much machine starting off is definitely something that I constantly evaluate. At the end of the day I can go Tormach if my funds are more limited and still be able to make parts. No as optimum as an entry level Haas, but I can at least get started.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Master_Arvist View Post
    Not buying too much machine starting off is definitely something that I constantly evaluate. At the end of the day I can go Tormach if my funds are more limited and still be able to make parts. No as optimum as an entry level Haas, but I can at least get started.
    Exactly, and when your sales exceed the capacity of the Tormach you can buy a faster, more capable machine with proven sales volume to justify the up front cost or outsource.



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    Quote Originally Posted by sin_arms View Post
    My experience with my new Doosan lathe has been stellar and a comparable machine through Haas would of been $30k more. I'll buy more doosans.
    What model did you get?



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    Quote Originally Posted by CadRhino View Post
    What model did you get?
    Lynx 220lysc



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    Quote Originally Posted by sin_arms View Post
    Lynx 220lysc

    Wow, that looks nice. Is that machine a mill/lathe combo?
    Do you also have a vmc or could you do everything with this setup?
    Thanks



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    Quote Originally Posted by CadRhino View Post
    Wow, that looks nice. Is that machine a mill/lathe combo?
    Do you also have a vmc or could you do everything with this setup?
    Thanks
    Yeah I have live tooling, y axis and c axis. Can do a lot of stuff you would on a 4th axis and more. I have VMCs also but I'll be getting rid of my tormach and fadal when I upgrade to a doosan DNM 5700 with a 4th.



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    Quote Originally Posted by sin_arms View Post
    Yeah I have live tooling, y axis and c axis. Can do a lot of stuff you would on a 4th axis and more. I have VMCs also but I'll be getting rid of my tormach and fadal when I upgrade to a doosan DNM 5700 with a 4th.
    Nice, I’ll check the 5700 out. I’ve herd nothing but great things About them.
    It ut real 4th axis on the 5700 or just a ‘slave’ ?
    Maritool uses them too.

    Btw what cam program are you using.



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    Quote Originally Posted by CadRhino View Post
    Nice, I’ll check the 5700 out. I’ve herd nothing but great things About them.
    It ut real 4th axis on the 5700 or just a ‘slave’ ?
    Maritool uses them too.

    Btw what cam program are you using.
    full 4th axis, and fusion360



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    Quote Originally Posted by sin_arms View Post
    full 4th axis, and fusion360
    Thanks. I didn’t know that fusion 360 could do full 4th axis yet so that’s good to know.



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