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    Default Tormach 2200 Professional CNC - your dream list

    Let’s say the next Tormach mill is going big and will be more of an entry level ‘professional’ Machine.
    What would be on your wish list?
    Here is my first stab;
    - linear ways
    - servo motors
    - 10(?) HP
    - greater y travel
    - around $20k or so depending on features
    - refined 15-tool ATC
    -integrated probe
    - option for through the spindle coolant
    - dead nuts reliability and accuracy to .0002

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    Default Re: Tormach 2200 Professional CNC - your dream list

    A few years ago when they started hinting about something new coming out I was hoping it would be a bigger machine (my first thought on name was also 2200). I was disappointed to when it ended up being the 440.
    For a 2200 my wishlist would be:
    - 30x16 XY travel
    - More reliable ATC
    - Optional Servo motors - >500in/min rapids, > 250in/min cutting
    - Optional 10K rpm 10hp BT30 spindle that works with the ATC

    I think this would fit nicely in the gap between a $19K 1100 (w/ enclosure and ATC) and a $32K TM-1P.



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    QUOTE=IMT;2145520]A few years ago when they started hinting about something new coming out I was hoping it would be a bigger machine (my first thought on name was also 2200). I was disappointed to when it ended up being the 440.
    For a 2200 my wishlist would be:
    - 30x16 XY travel
    - More reliable ATC
    - Optional Servo motors - >500in/min rapids, > 250in/min cutting
    - Optional 10K rpm 10hp BT30 spindle that works with the ATC[/QUOTE]



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    Default Re: Tormach 2200 Professional CNC - your dream list

    10 HP requires 3 phases.

    Jeff



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    Default Re: Tormach 2200 Professional CNC - your dream list

    Quote Originally Posted by jeffrey001 View Post
    10 HP requires 3 phases.

    Jeff
    Rotary phase converter. No problem at 10 hp.
    Maybe do a 7HP option that runs on single phase.



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    Quote Originally Posted by IMT View Post
    Rotary phase converter. No problem at 10 hp.
    Maybe do a 7HP option that runs on single phase.
    Possible, I have a HAAS 7HP running on single phase, but not sure if it is really 7HP, maybe it's true with 3 phases.

    Jeff



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    Default Re: Tormach 2200 Professional CNC - your dream list

    A machine manufactured with those tolerances, and power, is going to be expensive, now way around it. As for design, RD suggested a horizontal format mill with a vertical tomb stone a while back that sounded useful. All the swarf falls down and the user could load material on one side while machine mills on other side.
    Anyway when the x,y,z axis of the average 10 hp machine can ninja speed rapid move my 3k lb JEEP thru the wall it sets next to without stalling sounds very cool and expensive.
    That said the one thing I dislike about my 1100 mill the most is way oil mess.



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    Default Re: Tormach 2200 Professional CNC - your dream list

    A machine like you suggest would have Tormach competing head-to-head with the "big boys", like Haas. They'd never survive in that market - they don't have the support infrastructure that is REQUIRED to break into that market. If they built that infrastructure, they'd have to charge as much as Haas does. What would be their "value add" that would make them a viable competitor against the companies that have been in that market for decades? One of the keys to a successful business is understanding who your customer is, and what you can, and cannot, do.

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    Default Re: Tormach 2200 Professional CNC - your dream list

    I don't care what Tormach makes next as long as they get ER11 TTS holders done.

    Juan


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    Default Re: Tormach 2200 Professional CNC - your dream list

    Quote Originally Posted by C*H*U*D View Post
    I don't care what Tormach makes next as long as they get ER11 TTS holders done.
    Why not buy one of these and machine a holder to fit its diameter.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/5mm-ER11A-E....c100009.m1982

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffrey001 View Post
    Why not buy one of these and machine a holder to fit its diameter.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/5mm-ER11A-E....c100009.m1982

    Jeff
    The comment that: "It is manual measurement, there may be 1-3mm error." doesn't conjure good thoughts of TIR!

    I bought two of these (https://www.ebay.com/itm/C3-4-ER11A-...s/280785842367) but from a different supplier. One isn't bad but the threads on the other were so undersized that the collet nut would fall off. Yes, I got a refund.



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    I disagree, Ray. I feel that haas has not focused enough on ‘entry-level’ professional machines. I do not think Tormach should follow Haas’ model but use their current model and take it one notch up. With a Haas you got to call the service tech to replace the spindle. With a Tormach you order one and do it yourself.
    I do think there is a niche & opportunity there.
    Tormach is more than just machines, it is an approach to a machining.

    The challenge is to find the sweet spot of price vs options.

    -Nathan





    QUOTE=SCzEngrgGroup;2145554]A machine like you suggest would have Tormach competing head-to-head with the "big boys", like Haas. They'd never survive in that market - they don't have the support infrastructure that is REQUIRED to break into that market. If they built that infrastructure, they'd have to charge as much as Haas does. What would be their "value add" that would make them a viable competitor against the companies that have been in that market for decades? One of the keys to a successful business is understanding who your customer is, and what you can, and cannot, do.

    Regards,
    Ray L.[/QUOTE]



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