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    Default Huanyang VFD, Mach4, mb2ess issues

    Hi Guys,
    got an issue with the correct wiring for the mb2 to my new huanyang 3kw vfd. I have been at it for 2 days now! can anyone please explain the connections between the anaspeed circuit on the MB2, and the terminals on the VFD? I get no response from the vfd even though I've been over the wiring and programming so many times my head hurts!
    Tried rs485 and modbus but i get no joy with that either!
    Tim

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    Default Re: Huanyang VFD, Mach4, mb2ess issues

    Quote Originally Posted by barneskite View Post
    Hi Guys,
    got an issue with the correct wiring for the mb2 to my new huanyang 3kw vfd. I have been at it for 2 days now! can anyone please explain the connections between the anaspeed circuit on the MB2, and the terminals on the VFD? I get no response from the vfd even though I've been over the wiring and programming so many times my head hurts!
    Tried rs485 and modbus but i get no joy with that either!
    Tim
    Have you connected the 10v supply from the VFD Drive to the AH terminal

    Are you sure you have a genuine Huanyang VFD Drive

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    Default Re: Huanyang VFD, Mach4, mb2ess issues

    Quote Originally Posted by mactec54 View Post
    Have you connected the 10v supply from the VFD Drive to the AH terminal

    Are you sure you have a genuine Huanyang VFD Drive
    Yes i conneted 10~+ to the ah terminal, AL to the acm



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    Default Re: Huanyang VFD, Mach4, mb2ess issues

    Regarding genuine... not sure



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    Default Re: Huanyang VFD, Mach4, mb2ess issues

    Quote Originally Posted by barneskite View Post
    Regarding genuine... not sure
    Do the programing parameters start with a PD if so then it should be genuine, a photo of the terminals will also tell if it is as this is the most telling part

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    Default Re: Huanyang VFD, Mach4, mb2ess issues

    Quote Originally Posted by mactec54 View Post
    Do the programing parameters start with a PD if so then it should be genuine, a photo of the terminals will also tell if it is as this is the most telling part
    Yes the programming all starts with PD, i think it is genuine



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    Quote Originally Posted by barneskite View Post
    Yes the programming all starts with PD, i think it is genuine
    So can you run the VFD Drive by it self and control the speed in Keypad mode

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    Quote Originally Posted by mactec54 View Post
    So can you run the VFD Drive by it self and control the speed in Keypad mode
    Yes, can run with keypad.



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    Default Re: Huanyang VFD, Mach4, mb2ess issues

    Quote Originally Posted by barneskite View Post
    Yes, can run with keypad.
    Ok
    So now you need to test the output from the Breakout Board on terminals AO and AL this needs to have a changing voltage 0-10v over the speed range so M3S12000 should give you close to 5v if not then you have settings in the control to setup to get this working once you have that working then connect it to the VFD Drive, then the drive Parameters and J1 jumper will have to change from manual control to remote control

    Connect only after you have the 0-10v working

    AO to VI
    AL to ACM

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    Quote Originally Posted by mactec54 View Post
    Ok
    So now you need to test the output from the Breakout Board on terminals AO and AL this needs to have a changing voltage 0-10v over the speed range so M3S12000 should give you close to 5v if not then you have settings in the control to setup to get this working once you have that working then connect it to the VFD Drive, then the drive Parameters and J1 jumper will have to change from manual control to remote control

    Connect only after you have the 0-10v working

    AO to VI
    AL to ACM
    So I stripped the wiring out, and started again... The lights on the mb2 are functioning normally, I have set of 02 pd02 both to 1..pd044 to 1.,. No action

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    Default Re: Huanyang VFD, Mach4, mb2ess issues

    Quote Originally Posted by barneskite View Post
    So I stripped the wiring out, and started again... The lights on the mb2 are functioning normally, I have set of 02 pd02 both to 1..pd044 to 1.,. No action
    You have not said if the AO and AL connection / output is changing voltage, when you change the speed you have to check this with a meter at the Breakout Board lights don't mean that it is working correctly

    Also check the NO1 and CM1 with a meter to see if it is opening and closing when you use a M3S12000 command in MDI mode

    Leave PD044 at the default this does not need to be changed normally PD044=02

    These are the VFD Parameters to be set to make it run by remote control

    PD001=1
    PD002=1
    J1 Jumper Pins 1-2 / VI
    PD070=0
    PD072=400
    PD073=120

    You have not said what your Spindle / Motor spec's are so these Parameter settings may be incorrect for your Spindle / Motor

    To check the VFD Drive you can add a jumper to FOR and DCM this will start the VFD Drive in Remote control if the Parameters are set correct this can only be a test using a Jumper

    IF your VFD Drive Terminals have DCM then the Connection should be FOR and DCM

    You have it connected to FOR and ACM it needs to be FOR and DCM

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    Default Re: Huanyang VFD, Mach4, mb2ess issues

    Quote Originally Posted by mactec54 View Post
    You have not said if the AO and AL connection / output is changing voltage, when you change the speed you have to check this with a meter at the Breakout Board lights don't mean that it is working correctly

    Also check the NO1 and CM1 with a meter to see if it is opening and closing when you use a M3S12000 command in MDI mode

    Leave PD044 at the default this does not need to be changed normally PD044=02

    These are the VFD Parameters to be set to make it run by remote control

    PD001=1
    PD002=1
    J1 Jumper Pins 1-2 / VI
    PD070=0
    PD072=400
    PD073=120

    You have not said what your Spindle / Motor spec's are so these Parameter settings may be incorrect for your Spindle / Motor

    To check the VFD Drive you can add a jumper to FOR and DCM this will start the VFD Drive in Remote control if the Parameters are set correct this can only be a test using a Jumper

    IF your VFD Drive Terminals have DCM then the Connection should be FOR and DCM

    You have it connected to FOR and ACM it needs to be FOR and DCM
    Ok, so finally got there, it was the DCM that i was missing! thanks for your help!

    Now i need to control relays to activate solenoids. I have attached a relay 24v (mb2) - A1__ A2- y302 (MB2). I can see the light coming on/off but the relay is always energised??? Tried a few relays now and same result. Any ideas?



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    Quote Originally Posted by barneskite View Post
    Ok, so finally got there, it was the DCM that i was missing! thanks for your help!

    Now i need to control relays to activate solenoids. I have attached a relay 24v (mb2) - A1__ A2- y302 (MB2). I can see the light coming on/off but the relay is always energised??? Tried a few relays now and same result. Any ideas?
    Check that there is no voltage on the the input to the relay this will be controlled in the software

    Check that you are not connected to a NC Relay, you need to connect to a NO Relay connection and when it powers on it will close and activate your solenoids

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    Quote Originally Posted by mactec54 View Post
    Check that there is no voltage on the the input to the relay this will be controlled in the software

    Check that you are not connected to a NC Relay, you need to connect to a NO Relay connection and when it powers on it will close and activate your solenoids
    Have done so, I was going through the settings with just the relay coil connected, so no load on the switch side. I assumed the sink outputs block the current when not active, and act as a route to gnd/common when active. My thinking being that supply 24v to the coil and gnd to the sink output if that makes sense.. am I correct in thinking this is the right way to do it?



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    Default Re: Huanyang VFD, Mach4, mb2ess issues

    Quote Originally Posted by barneskite View Post
    Have done so, I was going through the settings with just the relay coil connected, so no load on the switch side. I assumed the sink outputs block the current when not active, and act as a route to gnd/common when active. My thinking being that supply 24v to the coil and gnd to the sink output if that makes sense.. am I correct in thinking this is the right way to do it?
    Did you have a diode across the input if not you may have damaged the output from the Breakout Board some relays have these built in but if you are using a coil type relay and not a SSR then you need what is called a snubber to protect the outputs of your Breakout Board , what you need, a Schottky diode IN5819 or a IN4007 Schottky is better as it has a faster switching time

    Depending on what your are switching your VFD Drive has at least 2 Relays that you can switch your relay, which you still want to protect with a Diode across the output from the VFD Drive

    Check your Breakout Board Spec's they will list how you have to use the outputs to switch inductive loads, your Relay with a coil has an inductive load, most people don't use this type of Relay and use SSR ( Solid State Relay ) which are already protected

    Mactec54


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