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    Default Huanyang spindle vs Zhong Hua Jiang spindle

    Hi guys, looking at amazon I see both of the brand mentioned above.
    for a 110v 2.2KW spindle, is one better than the other? - better brand and quality etc?
    I noticed many people have the HY VFDs - they seem popular.

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    Default Re: Huanyang spindle vs Zhong Hua Jiang spindle

    I would not buy a 110V 2.2kw spindle.
    The 220V version are much better.

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    Default Re: Huanyang spindle vs Zhong Hua Jiang spindle

    But I don't have 220v in this room =(



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    Default Re: Huanyang spindle vs Zhong Hua Jiang spindle

    110V is not enough to run a 2.2Kw spindle.

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    Default Re: Huanyang spindle vs Zhong Hua Jiang spindle

    Quote Originally Posted by ger21 View Post
    110V is not enough to run a 2.2Kw spindle.
    Hi Ger, I really appreciate and respect your your input. Can you elaborate on what you said above?
    There are 110V 2.2KW spindles out there, why would they not output the power?
    Maybe if I try to run a 220V 2.2KW spindle with a 110V VFD is that you mean?

    Again, not challenging you - I am asking the questions to learn and so that the next guy can also learn from my experience.
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    Default Re: Huanyang spindle vs Zhong Hua Jiang spindle

    A 2.2Kw VFD will typically draw 20-25 amps.
    To provide the same power at 110V, it would need to draw 40-50 amps.
    Most 120V circuits are only 15-20 amps.


    The Chinese are just trying to sell spindles. There's a reason that no other companies make 110V VFD's for 2.2Kw spindles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ger21 View Post
    A 2.2Kw VFD will typically draw 20-25 amps.
    To provide the same power at 110V, it would need to draw 40-50 amps.
    Most 120V circuits are only 15-20 amps.


    The Chinese are just trying to sell spindles. There's a reason that no other companies make 110V VFD's for 2.2Kw spindles.
    Oh wow.. so I am better off just getting a 1.xkw spindle if I only have 110v at at my disposal. Save some money and weigh.

    I hate feeling lied to... so then that 2.2kw will not be powerful and wont offer any benefit, i guess at least it jas 4 bearing so it should it a little more rigid.

    Ger21, so will the spindle not run at 24k rpm at 400hz under load if I want to cut acrylics or wood? / what about aluminum at 10k?



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    Default Re: Huanyang spindle vs Zhong Hua Jiang spindle

    Quote Originally Posted by FoxCNC1 View Post
    Hi Ger, I really appreciate and respect your your input. Can you elaborate on what you said above?
    There are 110V 2.2KW spindles out there, why would they not output the power?
    Maybe if I try to run a 220V 2.2KW spindle with a 110V VFD is that you mean?

    Again, not challenging you - I am asking the questions to learn and so that the next guy can also learn from my experience.
    Thank you
    You can use up to 1.5Kw with 110/120v but 1kw would be a good choice Huanyang is Ok the other band name there seems to be a new one every day I would not go there as it is unknown

    The 2.2Kw on 120v is around that of a 1.2Kw and will run poorly you don't have enough current /Amps to drive a 2.2Kw on a standard 120v outlet, the wiring is not up to carrying the Amps needed to drive a 2.2Kw spindle and will perform very poorly on 120v, they are a 3Phase motor and nobody in the world uses or makes a 110v 3 Phase motor the Chinese make these to catch a new user with a pile of junk

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    Default Re: Huanyang spindle vs Zhong Hua Jiang spindle

    I wonder if I was better off getting a 2.2KW 22V with a power converter (I don't have 220V here).
    can you guys define "poorly". What is going to run poorly, will it stall ? not hold speed..

    If you are saying that it is going to run the same at a 1.2KW then I can live with that considering I have more bearings. (4 as opposed to 2 or 3).
    BTW I got the Huanyang. Side to side you can tell there is a big difference in quality and presentation alone. Everything from the casing to the plug were better in terms of fit and finish. So I returned the over brand spindle.



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    Default Re: Huanyang spindle vs Zhong Hua Jiang spindle

    Quote Originally Posted by FoxCNC1 View Post
    I wonder if I was better off getting a 2.2KW 22V with a power converter (I don't have 220V here).
    can you guys define "poorly". What is going to run poorly, will it stall ? not hold speed..

    If you are saying that it is going to run the same at a 1.2KW then I can live with that considering I have more bearings. (4 as opposed to 2 or 3).
    BTW I got the Huanyang. Side to side you can tell there is a big difference in quality and presentation alone. Everything from the casing to the plug were better in terms of fit and finish. So I returned the over brand spindle.
    No 2.2Kw @ 220v with a transformer still needs a lot of current which you don't have from your 120v supply and wiring, yes they stall and the Breaker will drop out, think of a wet noodle

    1.5Kw 220v used with a transformer 120v to 220/240v 3000W is the largest you can run on 120v and even then you need a 25A 120v circuit so if you don't have that then there is nothing to talk about

    Mactec54


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    Default Re: Huanyang spindle vs Zhong Hua Jiang spindle

    Watts are watts weither or not its 240 or 120 volts.

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    Default Re: Huanyang spindle vs Zhong Hua Jiang spindle

    Quote Originally Posted by wmgeorge View Post
    Watts are watts weither or not its 240 or 120 volts.
    So what is your point nobody is talking about watts, we are talking about a 110v 3phase spindle we have discussed this before you memory is failing you

    Just giving him a choice of what he can run on his 120v supply

    Mactec54


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