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    Default Re: wiring vfd huanyang2.2kw to breakboard interface usbmach3 ver.2.1

    Quote Originally Posted by ekobadak View Post
    need help. wiring and setting parameter



    thank
    Water cooled or air cooled spindle spec's needed for Parameters you need

    R and T are you input power connections R being Hot / Live

    For and DCM I don't see a relay on the Breakout Board for FWD and Ground check this with a meter to see if it switches On/Off, if it does not have a Relay then you will have to add a Relay between FWD and Ground

    Vi and ACM Check to see if you have 0-10v output from AV and Ground on the Breakout Board

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    Quote Originally Posted by mactec54 View Post
    Water cooled or air cooled spindle spec's needed for Parameters you need

    R and T are you input power connections R being Hot / Live

    For and DCM I don't see a relay on the Breakout Board for FWD and Ground check this with a meter to see if it switches On/Off, if it does not have a Relay then you will have to add a Relay between FWD and Ground

    Vi and ACM Check to see if you have 0-10v output from AV and Ground on the Breakout Board
    my spindle is the type of water cooler.

    my breakboard has no relay to disconnect the current ... for fwd and ground ... how many feet is the relay added bro?

    VI and dcm there is a volt when the spindle is turned on mach3 ..

    same thing I need the parameter settings in the Huanyang type vfd that I attach later

    thank you



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    Default Re: wiring vfd huanyang2.2kw to breakboard interface usbmach3 ver.2.1

    Quote Originally Posted by ekobadak View Post
    my spindle is the type of water cooler.

    my breakboard has no relay to disconnect the current ... for fwd and ground ... how many feet is the relay added bro?

    VI and dcm there is a volt when the spindle is turned on mach3 ..

    same thing I need the parameter settings in the Huanyang type vfd that I attach later

    thank you

    The Relay something like the photo is all that is needed, it's working just as a switch no voltage on the output Relay to VFD switching the Relay also has to work with you Breakout Board output Voltage

    Water cooled does not say what the spec's of the spindle are need this information to give you the Parameters

    Voltage=
    Hz=
    Amps=
    RPM=

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    Quote Originally Posted by mactec54 View Post
    The Relay something like the photo is all that is needed, it's working just as a switch no voltage on the output Relay to VFD switching the Relay also has to work with you Breakout Board output Voltage

    Water cooled does not say what the spec's of the spindle are need this information to give you the Parameters

    Voltage=
    Hz=
    Amps=
    RPM=
    OK I attach a description for the spindle

    voltage 220v hz 400 amp 8 rpm 24000 merk gdz
    Maximum Torque 230mN.m
    Operating Speed 24000rpm
    Application Milling
    Model Number GDZ-80-2.2B
    Brand Name TECNR
    Drive Motor
    Warranty Bearing(half year), spindle(one year)
    Type Changsheng (CS)GDZ-80-2.2B
    Power 2.2KW
    Voltage 220V(380V are optional)
    Working speed 0-24000RPM
    Current 8A
    Diameter 80MM
    Size 80*213MM length
    Bearing 7005C P4*2 DT 7002C P4*1
    Collet ER20


    so that parameters can be provided for vfd 2.2kw brand huanyang



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    Default Re: wiring vfd huanyang2.2kw to breakboard interface usbmach3 ver.2.1

    Quote Originally Posted by ekobadak View Post
    OK I attach a description for the spindle

    voltage 220v hz 400 amp 8 rpm 24000 merk gdz
    Maximum Torque 230mN.m
    Operating Speed 24000rpm
    Application Milling
    Model Number GDZ-80-2.2B
    Brand Name TECNR
    Drive Motor
    Warranty Bearing(half year), spindle(one year)
    Type Changsheng (CS)GDZ-80-2.2B
    Power 2.2KW
    Voltage 220V(380V are optional)
    Working speed 0-24000RPM
    Current 8A
    Diameter 80MM
    Size 80*213MM length
    Bearing 7005C P4*2 DT 7002C P4*1
    Collet ER20


    so that parameters can be provided for vfd 2.2kw brand huanyang
    This is what you need to check that the Spindle Pin 4 Ground is connected, some are not connected in side and this needs to be corrected

    Input wiring for this VFD is best for R and T connection ( R Being Live/Hot connection )

    Huanyang Mactec54
    2.2Kw 220v 400Hz Water Cooled

    PD000=0 ( For Parameter lock 1 )

    PD001=0 (1 For Remote Control)

    PD002=0 ( 1 For 0-10v Terminal Control or Remote Trim Pot Control )
    ( J1 Also Needs to be set for Remote Terminal Control 1-2 jumper connection )

    PD003=400

    PD004=400

    PD005=400

    PD006=15

    PD007=20

    PD008=220 (Motor Rated Voltage )

    PD009=15

    PD010=8

    PD011=120 ( 100 Minimum Setting )

    PD13= 08 (is for Factory reset, Only use this to set VFD to Factory Default Settings, My be Different for your Model )

    PD014=8 ( Acceleration Adjust to suit)

    PD015=8 ( Deceleration Adjust to suit)
    PD15 ( is ignored IF PD26=1 the Spindle motor will Coast to a Stop)

    PD023=0 ( Forward Run Only )

    PD041=8 ( Carrier Frequency up to 10 Max for these Spindle motors)

    PD120=120 ( Stall Prevention )

    PD141=220 ( Motor Rated Voltage )

    PD142=9 ( Motor Max Amps 2.2Kw Spindle 9 amp )

    PD143=2 ( Motor Number of Poles)

    PD144=3000 (Max Motor RPM) =3,000= (24,000)

    PD70=0 ( This may need to be set to 1 if Control Voltage is 0-5v )

    PD72=400

    PD73=120 ( 100 Minimum RPM Setting )

    PD174= ??? ( To Be Set to the VFD Drives Max Rated Output Amps )

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    Default Re: wiring vfd huanyang2.2kw to breakboard interface usbmach3 ver.2.1

    If the FWD function is a concern there apparently is no relay reqd.
    Just as there is not on many controllers such as Gecki G540.
    Al.

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    Default Re: wiring vfd huanyang2.2kw to breakboard interface usbmach3 ver.2.1

    Quote Originally Posted by Al_The_Man View Post
    If the FWD function is a concern there apparently is no relay reqd.
    Just as there is not on many controllers such as Gecki G540.
    Al.
    There will be a problem if the output has a voltage, it would require a relay if it has any voltage, I believe he checked it

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    Default Re: wiring vfd huanyang2.2kw to breakboard interface usbmach3 ver.2.1

    Quote Originally Posted by mactec54 View Post
    There will be a problem if the output has a voltage, it would require a relay if it has any voltage, I believe he checked it
    Do you actually know the output configuration??
    With two wire output there should be no problem, even a relay requires an external (sourcing) voltage of some kind, I would suspect a typical open collector arrangement of some kind, also it appears the poster of the original pdf has used it in this manner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mactec54 View Post
    This is what you need to check that the Spindle Pin 4 Ground is connected, some are not connected in side and this needs to be corrected

    Input wiring for this VFD is best for R and T connection ( R Being Live/Hot connection )

    Huanyang Mactec54
    2.2Kw 220v 400Hz Water Cooled

    PD000=0 ( For Parameter lock 1 )

    PD001=0 (1 For Remote Control)

    PD002=0 ( 1 For 0-10v Terminal Control or Remote Trim Pot Control )
    ( J1 Also Needs to be set for Remote Terminal Control 1-2 jumper connection )

    PD003=400

    PD004=400

    PD005=400

    PD006=15

    PD007=20

    PD008=220 (Motor Rated Voltage )

    PD009=15

    PD010=8

    PD011=120 ( 100 Minimum Setting )

    PD13= 08 (is for Factory reset, Only use this to set VFD to Factory Default Settings, My be Different for your Model )

    PD014=8 ( Acceleration Adjust to suit)

    PD015=8 ( Deceleration Adjust to suit)
    PD15 ( is ignored IF PD26=1 the Spindle motor will Coast to a Stop)

    PD023=0 ( Forward Run Only )

    PD041=8 ( Carrier Frequency up to 10 Max for these Spindle motors)

    PD120=120 ( Stall Prevention )

    PD141=220 ( Motor Rated Voltage )

    PD142=9 ( Motor Max Amps 2.2Kw Spindle 9 amp )

    PD143=2 ( Motor Number of Poles)

    PD144=3000 (Max Motor RPM) =3,000= (24,000)

    PD70=0 ( This may need to be set to 1 if Control Voltage is 0-5v )

    PD72=400

    PD73=120 ( 100 Minimum RPM Setting )

    PD174= ??? ( To Be Set to the VFD Drives Max Rated Output Amps )

    I will try to set the parameters vfd huanyang.

    for the wiring from bob usbmach3 ver2.1 to vfd.

    fwd + ground (bob)
    * > relay> for + dcm (vfd)

    AV + ground (bob)> VI + Acm (vfd)

    Is it already correct ?



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    Default Re: wiring vfd huanyang2.2kw to breakboard interface usbmach3 ver.2.1

    Quote Originally Posted by Al_The_Man View Post
    Do you actually know the output configuration??
    With two wire output there should be no problem, even a relay requires an external (sourcing) voltage of some kind, I would suspect a typical open collector arrangement of some kind, also it appears the poster of the original pdf has used it in this manner.
    Al.
    Sure it does only on one side of the relay to switch it ON/OFF but the VFD Drive won't like it if you switch For and DCM with a Voltage that is why it needs a relay if there is any voltage out of the Breakout Board, it would be nice if they where as you say but I have not seen a Breakout Board that works that way

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    Default Re: wiring vfd huanyang2.2kw to breakboard interface usbmach3 ver.2.1

    Quote Originally Posted by mactec54 View Post
    Sure it does but the VFD Drive won't like it if you switch For and DCM with a Voltage that is why it needs a relay if there is any voltage out of the Breakout Board, it would be nice if they where as you say but I have not seen a Breakout Board that works that way
    So what you are implying is that the whole source for the relay comes from internal USB unit, show what you mean.
    Which if so, would imply a fixed relay voltage.
    Is there anything in the manual you can point to?
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    Default Re: wiring vfd huanyang2.2kw to breakboard interface usbmach3 ver.2.1

    Quote Originally Posted by Al_The_Man View Post
    So what you are implying is that the whole source for the relay comes from internal USB unit, show what you mean.
    Which if so, would imply a fixed relay voltage.
    Is there anything in the manual you can point to?
    Al.
    I don't think there is anything in the manuals for this connection, just done lot's of them and that's the way they work, there may be other ways to make them work, like you suggest, but I have never bother to try them any other way, some have fried the FOR input when using a voltage output from the Breakout Board

    The normal connection FOR and DCM, is just a passive switch, you can jumper FOR and DCM will do the same for a test

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    Default Re: wiring vfd huanyang2.2kw to breakboard interface usbmach3 ver.2.1

    Quote Originally Posted by mactec54 View Post
    but I have never bother to try them any other way, some have fried the FOR input when using a voltage output from the Breakout Board

    The normal connection FOR and DCM, is just a passive switch, you can jumper FOR and DCM will do the same for a test
    It is usually quite simple to find out the nature of any input and output for interfacing, I would rather do that and do it simply than tacking on a big 30amp relay as some advisers have been posting.
    It just needs a little technical knowledge that may be required in some case to do a little 'reverse engineering'.
    There are links and PDF's on the nature of sink and source inputs and most VFD's show the nature of the PLC inputs.
    There is nothing anywhere that states a passive switch is a Must for any interface.
    Here is one PDF for some enlightenment.
    Al.

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    Default Re: wiring vfd huanyang2.2kw to breakboard interface usbmach3 ver.2.1

    Quote Originally Posted by Al_The_Man View Post
    It is usually quite simple to find out the nature of any input and output for interfacing, I would rather do that and do it simply than tacking on a big 30amp relay as some advisers have been posting.
    It just needs a little technical knowledge that may be required in some case to do a little 'reverse engineering'.
    There are links and PDF's on the nature of sink and source inputs and most VFD's show the nature of the PLC inputs.
    There is nothing anywhere that states a passive switch is a Must for any interface.
    Here is one PDF for some enlightenment.
    Al.
    Yes you have posted that before, but does not help in this case as this model VFD does not have the ability to change how the inputs are used

    I don't believe anyone would be using a 30a relay unless that is all they had, The most common Breakout Boards that are being used already have a Relay built in just for this use

    Most VFD Drives can use sink or source for these input but this VFD Drive is cheap there GT model you can do this

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    Default Re: wiring vfd huanyang2.2kw to breakboard interface usbmach3 ver.2.1

    can you draw a wiring from BOb that I attached yesterday by using a relay to VFD huanyang? to make it clearer I see it ?? thank you



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    Default Re: wiring vfd huanyang2.2kw to breakboard interface usbmach3 ver.2.1

    please can you draw a wiring from BOb that I attached yesterday by using a relay to VFD huanyang? to make it clearer I see it ?? thank you

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    Default Re: wiring vfd huanyang2.2kw to breakboard interface usbmach3 ver.2.1

    Quote Originally Posted by ekobadak View Post
    please can you draw a wiring from BOb that I attached yesterday by using a relay to VFD huanyang? to make it clearer I see it ?? thank you

    @macteh54
    I don't see what you attached, it is very simple the connection to the VFD is FOR and DCM on the Relay this would be on the output side of the relay N/0 and the common terminal so the common would connect to DCM and the For to the N/0 connection, a photo of your relay would help the output from the Breakout Board would be connected the same way for the input to the Relay that may have +/- to connect to

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    Default Re: wiring vfd huanyang2.2kw to breakboard interface usbmach3 ver.2.1

    So in this unit, does the relay coil require a separate source or is it sourced from the output itself as you previously implied?
    ekobadak. does the unit come with any information?
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