Huayang VFD GT series Auto tuning

[landy]

Getting a new spindle dialed in here.

When I run the autotuning function; 5 minutes in, the VFD errors out with a OV3.

The manual says that is for: " the input voltage changes abnormally", OR "Inertia of the load is big"

solutions being:
"install input reactor"
"add proper consuming components"

I'm not sure exactly what the problem is, or the solutions for that matter...

anyone have any ideas.


The spindle seem to run fine, although I have not ran the RPM's up as high as the auto-tuning seems to.


Its a 4.2kw spindle, and the VFD is 7.5kw

maybe it too oversized?

thanks

landy

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[mactec54]

Getting a new spindle dialed in here.

When I run the autotuning function; 5 minutes in, the VFD errors out with a OV3.

The manual says that is for: " the input voltage changes abnormally", OR "Inertia of the load is big"

solutions being:
"install input reactor"
"add proper consuming components"

I'm not sure exactly what the problem is, or the solutions for that matter...

anyone have any ideas.


The spindle seem to run fine, although I have not ran the RPM's up as high as the auto-tuning seems to.


Its a 4.2kw spindle, and the VFD is 7.5kw

maybe it too oversized?

thanks

landy

I have found that you can only run these in V/F mode when the drive is to large for the spindle, the Drive can't program it's self, this seems to be a problem with the GT series

You also can't do an auto tune unless you have all the needed Parameters set for your Spindle

[landy]

Do you think it would be better to get the 5.5Kw version? I think that is the closest rated one to my spindle.

I have all the required parameter set, at least that I know of...

thanks for your input!

landy

[mactec54]

Do you think it would be better to get the 5.5Kw version? I think that is the closest rated one to my spindle.

I have all the required parameter set, at least that I know of...

thanks for your input!

landy

If you are using 3Ph power then you can have a VFD Drive that is close or the same size as the spindle Kw, if you are using single phase the you want close to double the size of the spindle Kw

[adam_m]

What motor are you running?

I also have the GT version... The Tech support from HuanYang said I only needed to set 4 parameters and that was it and shared this video



after which the autotune would take care of the rest, it did not.

Anyway, these are what I set for my 3.5KW motor before running the autotune:

P2.01=3.5
P2.02=300
P2.03=18000
P2.04=220
P2.05=15
P0.03=300
P0.04=300
P0.06=300



Hopefully it's helpful.

Adam,

[mactec54]

What motor are you running?

I also have the GT version... The Tech support from HuanYang said I only needed to set 4 parameters and that was it and shared this video



after which the autotune would take care of the rest, it did not.

Anyway, these are what I set for my 3.5KW motor before running the autotune:

P2.01=3.5
P2.02=300
P2.03=18000
P2.04=220
P2.05=15
P0.03=300
P0.04=300
P0.06=300



Hopefully it's helpful.

Adam,

If these are the only Parameters you set then you are running in V/F mode, which won't be a problem for the OP as well once he set his main Parameters

If your VFD Drive is matching then you won't have a problem as well, but you do need to set more Parameters than that or you will be just running in V/F mode, which does not have any problem doing this in auto tune, it is when you use it in Vector mode that the VFD Drive is not working correct

[mactec54]

Getting a new spindle dialed in here.

When I run the autotuning function; 5 minutes in, the VFD errors out with a OV3.

The manual says that is for: " the input voltage changes abnormally", OR "Inertia of the load is big"

solutions being:
"install input reactor"
"add proper consuming components"

I'm not sure exactly what the problem is, or the solutions for that matter...

anyone have any ideas.


The spindle seem to run fine, although I have not ran the RPM's up as high as the auto-tuning seems to.


Its a 4.2kw spindle, and the VFD is 7.5kw

maybe it too oversized?

thanks

landy

The main thing is that you have all the main parameters set for your spindle spec's

What are your Spindle spec's ??? I most likely have all the parameters you need to have set

[landy]

Attachment 411344

I have the parameters set to match what is on the spindle.


P2.01=4.2
P2.02=400
P2.03=24000
P2.04=220
P2.05=11.2
P0.03=400
P0.04=400

i'm not using the keypad, so I don't think I set P0.06.

I am also using 1 phase power.

thanks again

[mactec54]

Attachment 411344

I have the parameters set to match what is on the spindle.


P2.01=4.2
P2.02=400
P2.03=24000
P2.04=220
P2.05=11.2
P0.03=400
P0.04=400

i'm not using the keypad, so I don't think I set P0.06.

I am also using 1 phase power.

thanks again

Ok this is what you need to set to get you going, Check that the Ground Terminal has continuity Pin 4 to Spindle Body if not this will have to be corrected

These are what you need set
Mactec54

400Hz 220v 4.2 Water Cooled Spindle Settings

P0.00=0 ( 0 for V/ F Control 1 For Vector Control )

P0.01=0 ( 0 For KeyPad 1 For Remote Terminal Use )

P0.02=3

P0.03=400

P0.04=400

P0.05=120 ( you may be able to go lower depending on Spindle Temperature 100 Minimum )

P0.06=400

P0.11=10 ( adjustable Acceleration )

P0.12=10 ( adjustable Deceleration )

P0.14= 6 ( 6 to 8 )

P0.17= ( 1 to Restore Factory Defaults ) ( 2 clears all Faults )

P1.01=10


P2.01=4.2 ( Motor Settings )
P2.02=400
P2.03=24000
P2.04=220
P2.05=11.2

P7.14= ?? ( VFD Rated KW )

P7.15= ?? ( VFD Rated output Amps )

Once these Parameters are set, you can then do a Autotune, you set Parameter P016=1 and Press Run, ( The Spindle Must Be Clear To Run )

For main input Power wiring connect R Hot T Hot and Ground to the Ground Terminal, this is your connection for NA 240v single Phase

[adam_m]

If these are the only Parameters you set then you are running in V/F mode, which won't be a problem for the OP as well once he set his main Parameters

If your VFD Drive is matching then you won't have a problem as well, but you do need to set more Parameters than that or you will be just running in V/F mode, which does not have any problem doing this in auto tune, it is when you use it in Vector mode that the VFD Drive is not working correct

Mactec54,

I'm unfamiliar with the "Speed Control Mode" between V/F and Vector Control... what are the advantages of using Vector Control?

It also looks like its P0.00 = (1 or 2) not sure which I would choose... and if that is the only setting needing to be change to set it up.

Adam,

[mactec54]

Mactec54,

I'm unfamiliar with the "Speed Control Mode" between V/F and Vector Control... what are the advantages of using Vector Control?

It also looks like its P0.00 = (1 or 2) not sure which I would choose... and if that is the only setting needing to be change to set it up.

Adam,

You are best staying with 0 as V/F as you would not see any difference, If you did want to try, it won't hurt anything, you would use ( 1 ) and then Auto Tune, if it does not run well after, then go back to ( 0 ) and Auto Tune again

You would not see much difference with your spindle as the Torque is linear, there would be very little change if any from 12,000RPM to 18,000RPM

It seems you only missed ( 1 ) main Parameter Minimum Speed P0.05 needs to be set at your spindle minimum speed spec's if it is Air cooled by the built in fan then the minimum speed would be around 12,000 RPM

300Hz 220v Spindle Settings

P0.00=0 ( 0 for V/ F Control 1 For Vector Control )

P0.01=0 ( 0 For KeyPad 1 For Remote Terminal Use )

P0.02=3

P0.03=300

P0.04=300

P0.05=120 ( Minimum Speed Yours may be higher than this )

P0.06=300

P2.01=3.5
P2.02=300
P2.03=18000
P2.04=220
P2.05=15

P7.14= ?? ( VFD Rated KW )

P7.15= ?? ( VFD Rated output Amps )

[landy]

Ok this is what you need to set to get you going, Check that the Ground Terminal has continuity Pin 4 to Spindle Body if not this will have to be corrected

These are what you need set
Mactec54

400Hz 220v 4.2 Water Cooled Spindle Settings

P0.00=0 ( 0 for V/ F Control 1 For Vector Control )

P0.01=0 ( 0 For KeyPad 1 For Remote Terminal Use )

P0.02=3

P0.03=400

P0.04=400

P0.05=120 ( you may be able to go lower depending on Spindle Temperature 100 Minimum )

P0.06=400

P0.11=10 ( adjustable Acceleration )

P0.12=10 ( adjustable Deceleration )

P0.14= 6 ( 6 to 8 )

P0.17= ( 1 to Restore Factory Defaults ) ( 2 clears all Faults )

P1.01=10


P2.01=4.2 ( Motor Settings )
P2.02=400
P2.03=24000
P2.04=220
P2.05=11.2

P7.14= ?? ( VFD Rated KW )

P7.15= ?? ( VFD Rated output Amps )

Once these Parameters are set, you can then do a Autotune, you set Parameter P016=1 and Press Run, ( The Spindle Must Be Clear To Run )

For main input Power wiring connect R Hot T Hot and Ground to the Ground Terminal, this is your connection for NA 240v single Phase

Had a chance to check and change parameters to what is listed above.
Then I ran the auto-tune, still errored out with OV3, but might have ran longer before doing so. I didn't time either run, so I cant say for sure.


I have noticed that on occasion the spindle makes a high pitched squealing noise randomly, then it goes away. Not sure if its related or not?


thanks for all you help!

landy

[mactec54]

Had a chance to check and change parameters to what is listed above.
Then I ran the auto-tune, still errored out with OV3, but might have ran longer before doing so. I didn't time either run, so I cant say for sure.


I have noticed that on occasion the spindle makes a high pitched squealing noise randomly, then it goes away. Not sure if its related or not?


thanks for all you help!

landy

What mode did you try it in just do a regular P0.00=0 if this does not work and you have all the Parameters set correct

It seems for that fault you have an input power problem, what is your supply what amperage do you have available You most likely will need a line filter and may be a reactor as well

[landy]

What mode did you try it in just do a regular P0.00=0 if this does not work and you have all the Parameters set correct

It seems for that fault you have an input power problem, what is your supply what amperage do you have available You most likely will need a line filter and may be a reactor as well

Yes, it was in P0.00 = 0

its 220v single phase, from a 30 amp breaker in a sub panel.

if I do need a line filter or reactor, do you have any recommendations?

thanks!!!

landy

[mactec54]

Yes, it was in P0.00 = 0

its 220v single phase, from a 30 amp breaker in a sub panel.

if I do need a line filter or reactor, do you have any recommendations?

thanks!!!

landy

Spindle to VFD Drive cable is this 4 core and shielded

30 amp is not enough for your VFD and spindle using single phase, your VFD is really to big for your spindle a 5.5Kw would be a better size, as the 7.5Kw is bordering max for single phase supply

If you can change the VFD to a 5.5KW and you would need at least a 45A supply, I would start with a Filter which has to be rated for the max input amps of your VFD Drive when using single phase power, not the rating you see for 3ph power

Any Breaker and its circuit's has to be sized correct for Code requirements, the input amps on single phase can be as much as double the output amps, when using single phase power, your Mains Breaker should be sized 125% more than the max input amps for the VFD Drive on single phase and wiring to match, the snip is what the output amps can be for a motor on single phase power