It took me about two minutes to setup the plugin and get the spindle running. I'd consider that to be sooooooooo much easier than writing brains and macros, and entering all of the modbus info.Yes, there are some people who managed to decipher and implement plugins for both Mach3 and UCCNC so users can use RS485, but it is sooooooo much easier to implement in Brains in Mach3, or writing macros for UCCNC when the protocol is standard Modbus. It took me an hour in Mach3 to get the basic controls working and only a half an hour to write a basic macro code for UCCNC.
Gerry
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Last edited by A_Camera; 06-19-2018 at 05:41 AM.
https://www.youtube.com/c/AdaptingCamera/videos
https://adapting-camera.blogspot.com
Post an example of a model matching Bosch, Yaskawa, Scneider, Hitachi... You quoted a page earlier which is just crap and nonsense. My Chinese made Bosch is at least well made and well documented, and is STANDARD regarding Modbus, fulfiling ALL EU electrical regulations and safety standards, as opposed to the ones I have seen on eBay and one every forum, including this one.
You keep using "Chinese" as if you want to offend me with that word. As I said earlier, I don't care if something is Chinese, American or German, as long as it is quality. In all those countries they make quality products as well as crap, and for your information, Bosch is so huge today that they have manufacturing all over the world in MANY countries, not only China and not only Asia, also in EU.
Last edited by A_Camera; 06-19-2018 at 05:37 AM.
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What make you say that this VFD is more "genuine" HY then others? I really don't know what is the difference and probably many people are interested in what is a "genuine" HY.
I was in contact with that specific seller ever since you posted this link and tried to get the user guide for that VFD. He was OK, answered fast, friendly and solution oriented, and finally today I received the manual. I really can't see any difference compared to other HY manuals I have seen before. Modbus is still the same self-invented, non-standard type, and the VFD is pretty poorly documented, though it may be enough for the "average Joe" to set up and use. I include the manual in this post, so those who want to read it and check it out can read it, and collectors can download it for future reference and quote parts of it as they like, and normally do.
https://www.youtube.com/c/AdaptingCamera/videos
https://adapting-camera.blogspot.com
The fake ones usually will have different terminals, and different colored labels, often blue on the front.What make you say that this VFD is more "genuine" HY then others?
Gerry
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Here is one of the manuals, the other one for the standard HY VFD Drive is to big and will not load
Mactec54
@mactec54 that is the manual I got from this seller https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F282810965819 also USA stock got it before my CNC was shipped from CNC Router Parts only thing is you will have to add your own ground to pin 4 on the spindle as it is not connected
Getting ready to pull the trigger on my spindle and VFD and had some additional questions about amp ratings and torque ratings and the distinction between motors.
- Why are some models sold having different amperage draws than others given the KW? e.g. multiple 4kw motors have 10amp or 15amp ratings...
- How can I determine the torque of a motor given that most do not list them on ebay listings?
- Is it better to have a larger VFD than the motor or should they be equal?
- Does the VFD normal only require 220 single phase input and generates 3phase output or does it require 3phase input to generate 3phase output, a little confused here..?
- Should the breaker match the amperage or double that of the motor? I will be re-using a circuit from an old hot tub which I think has a 50amp breaker, just wondering if I should change it.
Thanks,
Last edited by adam_m; 09-19-2018 at 06:02 AM.
G540, Rack and Pinion Drives-X/Y axis, 1/2-Ball Screw-Z Axis w/THK HSR 25 Linear Slides, Steppers KL23H2100-35-4B, Power Supply-KL-600-48
If you have 3Ph it is always better to use it, 240v NA single phase is fine also
A 1Hp to 2Hp is better for a VFD Drive that is using Single Phase for the VFD Drive input power supply, Low Hp VFD Drives that are rated for Single Phase, Spindle Motor and VFD can have the same Hp Rating, only because they are rated for Single Phase use
There ratings are done with what voltage they are running at 380v the 4Kw would be around 10.5A your 240v NA supply would be roughly 17A
The Main Breaker should be sized for your whole machine, the average machine with a 2.2Kw spindle can use a 25A to 30A Main Breaker
Your 50A Breaker should be fine for your 4Kw spindle and Machine
Mactec54
Because they are cheap chinese knockoffs. The ones with the lower current ratings likely lower powered than their rating.- Why are some models sold having different amperage draws than others given the KW? e.g. multiple 4kw motors have 10amp or 15amp ratings...
I don't know if you can. Or if it's really that important, unless you want to run it at very low RPM. In which case, cheap chinese spindles are probably not the best choice.- How can I determine the torque of a motor given that most do not list them on ebay listings?
It's always better to have a larger VFD, but not always necessary.- Is it better to have a larger VFD than the motor or should they be equal?
- Does the VFD normal only require 220 single phase input and generates 3phase output or does it require 3phase input to generate 3phase output, a little confused here..?The circuit breaker is to protect the wiring, not the motor or VFD. No need to change it.
Depends on the VFD. All VFD's are 3 phase input. Some are rated for both single phase and 3 phase. Others (usually over 3HP) require derating when used with single phase.
- Should the breaker match the amperage or double that of the motor? I will be re-using a circuit from an old hot tub which I think has a 50amp breaker, just wondering if I should change it.
Gerry
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So I should look for one that is advertising a larger amperage consumption and a VFD atleast the equivalent or larger than the motor?
I was leaning towards the following:
Spindle:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/CNC-4kw-Air...53.m1438.l2649
VFD:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/HY-BRAND-22...53.m1438.l2649
G540, Rack and Pinion Drives-X/Y axis, 1/2-Ball Screw-Z Axis w/THK HSR 25 Linear Slides, Steppers KL23H2100-35-4B, Power Supply-KL-600-48
I can't believe that a 4Kw motor would only draw 10A at 220V!!!
Yes, most water cooled 2.2kw spindles are 10 amps, so that spindle is a lot closer to 2.2kw than 4kw.
Gerry
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This 4.5Kw spindle is 16.5 amps.
65% more power.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/CNC-Spindle...r=501966307089
Gerry
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Mach3 2010 Screenset
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