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    Default Re: Electrical question on Haunyang VFD 2.2kw

    Ok, I have that all that done. Now I have the VFD wired except the PMDX-107 to the VFD.
    What wire should I use, is Security 18 gauge shielded wire good to go from the VFD to the PMDX-107 board.
    Also I don't have relays to control power up to the VFD or water pump. Not sure about how to do,
    or can the PMDX-126 board control the VFD & pump power on & off?



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    Default Re: Electrical question on Haunyang VFD 2.2kw

    Quote Originally Posted by onecut View Post
    Ok, I have that all that done. Now I have the VFD wired except the PMDX-107 to the VFD.
    What wire should I use, is Security 18 gauge shielded wire good to go from the VFD to the PMDX-107 board.
    Also I don't have relays to control power up to the VFD or water pump. Not sure about how to do,
    or can the PMDX-126 board control the VFD & pump power on & off?
    Yes if the PMDX does not have a built in relay then you will need one to switch the FWD and DCM on the VFD

    Depending how you want to run your pump, a Relay is most likely the best idea for that too

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    Default Re: Electrical question on Haunyang VFD 2.2kw

    Can anyone tell me why there is a ground symbols under the R connecter?
    mactec54 said to connect L1 to R and L2 to T.
    That's the way I had it connected but better check to make sure.
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    Default Re: Electrical question on Haunyang VFD 2.2kw

    onecut, your manual infers there is a solid state switch that connects to common for For/Rev etc, the manual indicates connecting for the S,S, output direct to the VFD as I have mentioned in a separate post, in this case a relay is not needed..
    You can use R & T, I always use R & S the earth symbol is for the screw that is tapped into the frame just to the left of the symbol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onecut View Post
    Can anyone tell me why there is a ground symbols under the R connecter?
    mactec54 said to connect L1 to R and L2 to T.
    That's the way I had it connected but better check to make sure.
    Electrical question on  Haunyang VFD 2.2kw-img_1390-jpg
    That screw in the plastic may be Ground, you would have to check with a meter to be sure, or not sometimes the screws are Grounded in the cases, but use the main Ground terminal

    R And T for your 2 Hot wires in and Ground goes to the Ground Terminal at the Right Hand end, check with a meter that the Ground Terminal is connected to the Heat sink of the VFD

    Your Ground from the Spindle also connects to the same Ground point, it looks like you are not using a shielded cable from the spindle to the VFD you will need to use a shielded cable, if you are just using a 60Hz 3Ph Ac motor that is stationary then you can use metalized flexible conduit

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    Default Re: Electrical question on Haunyang VFD 2.2kw

    Quote Originally Posted by Al_The_Man View Post
    onecut, your manual infers there is a solid state switch that connects to common for For/Rev etc, the manual indicates connecting for the S,S, output direct to the VFD as I have mentioned in a separate post, in this case a relay is not needed..
    You can use R & T, I always use R & S the earth symbol is for the screw that is tapped into the frame just to the left of the symbol.

    Al.
    That is incorrect, Huanyang now uses R and T for the correct input connection and has been for some time

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    Default Re: Electrical question on Haunyang VFD 2.2kw

    My manual.
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    Default Re: Electrical question on Haunyang VFD 2.2kw

    Quote Originally Posted by Al_The_Man View Post
    My manual.
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    Yes that is what is in the manual, which has never been changed, you will find that most of the resellers post it in there web sites to use R and T as the preferred connection, the other connections can be used but is not reliable with this VFD Drive

    There are many VFD Drive that do use R and S as there connection, this Huanyang is not one of them

    We also have had this discussion before

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    Default Re: Electrical question on Haunyang VFD 2.2kw

    There is heck of alot out there on web sites and utube video's of those "all doing it wrong".
    Funny Huanyang don't come out and say it explicitly in the manual??
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    Default Re: Electrical question on Haunyang VFD 2.2kw

    Quote Originally Posted by Al_The_Man View Post
    onecut, your manual infers there is a solid state switch that connects to common for For/Rev etc, the manual indicates connecting for the S,S, output direct to the VFD as I have mentioned in a separate post, in this case a relay is not needed..
    You can use R & T, I always use R & S the earth symbol is for the screw that is tapped into the frame just to the left of the symbol.

    Al.
    Al, what do you mean by S,S output and do you remember what page of the manual it is on.



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    Default Re: Electrical question on Haunyang VFD 2.2kw

    S.S. Solid State, on P9 for one.
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    Default Re: Electrical question on Haunyang VFD 2.2kw

    Quote Originally Posted by Al_The_Man View Post
    onecut, your manual infers there is a solid state switch that connects to common for For/Rev etc, the manual indicates connecting for the S,S, output direct to the VFD as I have mentioned in a separate post, in this case a relay is not needed..
    You can use R & T, I always use R & S the earth symbol is for the screw that is tapped into the frame just to the left of the symbol.

    Al.
    Al, How do I make the 220 water pump power up when the VFD is powered up or how do I go about doing that?



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    Default Re: Electrical question on Haunyang VFD 2.2kw

    Quote Originally Posted by Al_The_Man View Post
    There is heck of alot out there on web sites and utube video's of those "all doing it wrong".
    Funny Huanyang don't come out and say it explicitly in the manual??
    Al.
    It is your lack of experience with these VFD Drives, to know what works best

    It's a Chinese Manual, what do you expect, there is no real guide as to what to use for the Input power connection, you just need to have experience with this Drive to know the drive and what works

    There are more failures on start up when they are wired R and S, ( Drive Faults ) once you get a Fault on start up, ( Depending on which Fault ) the Drive in most cases needs repair, or sent to the trash

    When wired R and T there are less of these Drive Faults on start up

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    Default Re: Electrical question on Haunyang VFD 2.2kw

    Quote Originally Posted by onecut View Post
    Al, How do I make the 220 water pump power up when the VFD is powered up or how do I go about doing that?
    You can use one of the VFD Drives output Relays to drive another Relay that suits your pump, some pumps if small enough Low Amps draw can be connected direct, if you don't know what your pumps needs are use a external Relay that is switched by ( 1 ) of the VFD Drives Relays

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    Default Re: Electrical question on Haunyang VFD 2.2kw

    Quote Originally Posted by onecut View Post
    Al, How do I make the 220 water pump power up when the VFD is powered up or how do I go about doing that?
    onecut: you can set the parameters PD050/051/052 to enable an output when different conditions occur , if using a separate external aux relay any of the outputs can be used, the Y1 and Y2 have open collector outputs upto 100ma, the FA/B/C is the internal relay and is 3AMP capable.
    Example setting the selected output parameter to 1 = IN RUN
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    Default Re: Electrical question on Haunyang VFD 2.2kw

    Quote Originally Posted by onecut View Post
    Al, How do I make the 220 water pump power up when the VFD is powered up or how do I go about doing that?
    BTW if using the relay contact output the manual (mine) shows it backwards, the FB to FC is the N.C. contact, the FB to FA is the N.O. i.e. FB & FA close in RUN.
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    Default Re: Electrical question on Haunyang VFD 2.2kw

    Quote Originally Posted by onecut View Post
    Al, How do I make the 220 water pump power up when the VFD is powered up or how do I go about doing that?
    Here is a preliminary updated pdf for it.
    Using either the S.S. output or the PLC relay.
    Set Para PD050/051/052 accordingly.
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    Default Re: Electrical question on Haunyang VFD 2.2kw

    Thanks Al



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    Default Re: Electrical question on Haunyang VFD 2.2kw

    Quote Originally Posted by onecut View Post
    I got a Haunyang VFD 2.2kw water cooled spindle Kit with 220vac water pump, off EBay.
    The pump came with a 2 prong plug, which is to my understanding is 220vac on one prong and ground on the other prong.
    I think the type of plug is for UK power, 220vac one line. Can anyone comment on this type of plug and power?

    I'm also concerned about the VFD it self, if the pump is UK is the VFD require the same UK power or can I hook 2- 120 lines to make it 220vac, UK power is 1 line 220.
    Can anyone tell me the correct power that I can supply to the VFD.
    I have pics of what I have.
    Thanks


    That is definately not a UK Plug. I lived there for a number of years and almost every plug is a 3 prong and the prongs are larger and squarer. That one looks like the kind they use on mainland Europe for small appliances (they have a 3 prong version for larger kit). I have seen it in the Middle East too.

    I only saw outlets like that in the UK in bathrooms (for electric shavers).

    Having just wired up an HY VFD in America, I suggest looking up the exact type of 240v outlet you have and how they are wired. There is a number of styles here and they are not wired the same.



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    Default Re: Electrical question on Haunyang VFD 2.2kw

    Ok, I hooked up the VFD and powered the VFD up only with the spindle unplugged and all other power off and set the parameters on the VFD.
    I pushed the run button and arrow key up and down all seams to be ok. I guess I'm ready to hook the spindle up and test it but before I do,
    I would like to get feedback on the wiring dia. I made. Now I'm no electrician, That is why I need input on the wire dia. Just don't want to see the blue smoke.
    The parameter I used on the VFD are on the top right side of the wire dia. Fill free to pick it all apart because it all needs to be right.
    And thanks for all input. Electrical question on  Haunyang VFD 2.2kw-wire-dia-1-jpg



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