Hello
How did you reinitial the controller?
I dont thik a eprom is defective
Best regards
Thomas
This is my first time out of lurk mode and above the parapet, so please forgive me if I'm not in the correct forum.
I'm trying to resurrect an old Chiron FZ12 circa 1979.
The maching has been switched off for over two years and refused to jog when I connected it last week.
When we got it first six years ago, the battery for the volatile memory had died so we replaced it and reloaded parameters and all was well.
This time, no such luck.
I'm going through the process in the Siemens manual to re-initialise a corrupt system. Stage 1:- clearing and reloading NC comm and PC comm seems to proceed OK but when I move to Stage 2:- Initialise NC shows a message "These functions require commissioning data to be set" and I'm screwed.
It appears to me that even though the first stage appears to complete OK, the data loaded must be corrupt. There are 12 Eproms in the controller on three daughter cards (which I have reseated). I suspect one of these has given up the ghost.
Anyone got any suggestions?
Philip.
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Hello
How did you reinitial the controller?
I dont thik a eprom is defective
Best regards
Thomas
Thomas,
The process in the manual starts with powering on the controller while holding down the 'eyeball' key until the screen comes alive. This presents a screen with softkeys enabling initialisation of the various parts, starting with deleting and reloading commissioning data, NC and PC. The next screen cannot be processed because of the message quoted above.
I'm assuming the data reloaded must come from an eprom but I'll be more than happy to be wrong.
Can you suggest a way to further investigate my problem? Any suggestions will be gratefully received.
Philip.
Philip,
dont care about the messages in this mode.
first you have to delete and load the ncmd
after this the plc datas
then the nc datas.
there no datas to load from the eproms.
can you give me the machinenumber, may i can provide the
machinedatas.
regards
Thomas
Thomas,
It's manufacture date is 1979. I'm at home so I cannot verify the S/N until Monday but I'm fairly sure it's 101-18.
Philip.
OK Philip,
if you are sure about this datas please
reply it on Monday, also I need the Controller Type
810 GA1 or GA2 or GA3
also I need a Email Adress where I can send the Datas
regards
Thomas
Thomas,
I'll confirm tomorrow. Where will I find GA* on the controller?
I'm Philip 'at' watermarkeng.ie
Thanks again,
Philip
Thomas,
The machine serial is 101-18.
On the Sinumerik Logbuch this is the information:
SINUMERIK 810 M
6FC3471-OAA-Z
F-NR.: A 1477149
24V DC, 120W
I can't find any reference to GA* in the manuals or on the machine???
Regards,
Philip.
Philip
did you receive my email?
no response from you until now
hope it helps you
regards
Thomas
Thomas,
Got your email last evening.
I'll be at the machine this morning and I'll post results asap.
Best regards,
Philip.
Thomas,
Loaded TEA1&2, PCP and PCA and now controller switches on and password can be entered OK. However, I now have a 1762 - X end of working area - alarm which won't reset even though I've manually moved all three axes off the limits.
I'll investigate further tomorrow.
Philip.
Hi Philip,
you have to fill out in the Setting Data your Working Area.
regards
Thomas
Thomas,
Thanks a lot for all the help. We now have a working machine again. We had a few small hiccups with the pneumatics - always a little fragile - but all is now well.
Thanks again and if you're ever visiting Ireland, be sure to give me a call, you still have my email address.
Best regards,
Philip.
Just to tie off the thread.
Very many thanks to Thomas for all the help.
Friend Chiron is now behaving as he should.
I had a few other problems with the RS232 link but that's also now working well.
Another boat deprived of an anchor. Oh happy day!!!
Philip.
Dear All,
As i could get a place to put New thread, hence using "Reply" field in place of New Thread - Pl excuse me
Machine Details : Magnum High speed Chiron-Wierke
D-78532 TUTTLINGEN
Nr. 457-07 Year 1997 with Siemens 810 GA3
This machine was nnot in use for 1 year, when we tried to switch we got Error "PLC STOP", then as per the standard procedure we loaded PLC through our old back up, everything got loaded without any error but finally when we switch ON the machine again we get "PLC Stop"
We repeated few times but still PLC Stop
We feel that our PLC nackup is not OK
a) Can any of u please send me PLC of this machine
b) Apart from this any other advice if u can give me
Best Regards,
Pl reply to maddala.rishikesh@tatamotors.com
M. Rishikesh
Hi Thomas,
I know this is an old topic but I have recently purchased a used Chiron FZ 12 S High Speed with a Siemens Sinumerik 810M GA3 controller.
Unfortunatly the machine was disconected for a long time and all parameters were lost.
I have all documents with the original parameters signed in april of 1995 by someone who's name is Buschle.
I have followed the instructions to write these parameters into the 810 but i have not been able to get the machine to turn on.
I would like to know if you can provide the original parameters or a backup copy of them of something that will make the machine run. I might be missing something.
Machine type is FZ12-S 20W
Machine Serial Number is 474-13
NC-Optionen Standard:
B70,B75,N02,E31,F72,B61,F05,E42,N31,N32
NC-Optionen kostenpflichtig:
A04
Thank you in advance,
André Godinho
Hello Andre,
I can provide the datas,
where I can send it?
Best regards
Thomas
Good day to you all.
I have a problem with my 1996 Chiron FZ12W, Siemens 810M GA3.
I cant get past initializing screen. The "eyeball" button doesnt help.
Im suspecting that something is toasted
Also RED LED on CPU card is ON and I dont know if this is normal.
Could it be the faulty CPU card?
Thank you very much.
This was the photo of the screen before I was stuck on initializing screen and before I took the battery out: