Can this servo-drive support pulse/dir commande

[Diae]

Hi,



I would have thought that if it were possible it would be described in the manual, but its not. That's why I asked the question.

My Delta servos can be programmed by pushing buttons but its slow, tedious an error prone. I gave it up as a bad joke and bought the cable required
to program the drive with a PC, vastly superior.

My Allen Bradley servo REQUIRES software to set-up, you cant program by button pushing.....and I had to buy the software.

I think you should do some research to find out, you may end up having to buy the software as I did. It wasn't the end of the world ($200NZD) but
I wasn't expecting to have to pay.....

Craig

Like i said the machine that i own is a cnc router and it controlled by alphacam , the original problem is that i had to buy like license or some code to activate the software in order to get the machine work , so i dicided to modif it with a simple controller and simple software
I think the original controller generate an analog data
So i will chage just the mode of control to pulse and some wiring

[Diae]

Like i said the machine that i own is a cnc router and it controlled by alphacam , the original problem is that i had to buy like license or some code to activate the software in order to get the machine work , so i dicided to modif it with a simple controller and simple software
I think the original controller generate an analog data
So i will chage just the mode of control to pulse and some wiring

I will keep all the wiring for power supply , encoder , motor power
The only thing that i will change is the control commande from analog to pulse and of course the wiring for CN1 port

[joeavaerage]

Hi,
well I did not find that, so yes it can be programmed by button pushing, but good luck with that. There are hundreds of parameters and while most
can be left alone there are still several dozen that you need to take control of.

Some of the numbers you have to enter are 32 bit integers which require 10 decimal digits, and the display on the drive is only five or six digits wide, so you can't even
see the complete number....a PITA. If you can get the software then buy the cable, manual programming is a joke.

Craig

[Diae]

Hi,
well I did not find that, so yes it can be programmed by button pushing, but good luck with that. There are hundreds of parameters and while most
can be left alone there are still several dozen that you need to take control of.

Some of the numbers you have to enter are 32 bit integers which require 10 decimal digits, and the display on the drive is only five or six digits wide, so you can't even
see the complete number....a PITA. If you can get the software then buy the cable, manual programming is a joke.

Craig

Ok ,so i will buy the cable and do the parametring
Just qustion what are the parametre that i should modify if i choose pulse control

[joeavaerage]

Hi,
there are likely to be dozens that you will tweak until you are happy.

The main ones are the parameters controlling the pulse input, their polarity and filtering.
The next most important are the numerator and denominator of the electronic gear ratio.
Thereafter parameter that affect max acceleration, velocity, current , voltage , torque.
You will also need to set the 'Following Error Window' and the 'Zero Error Window'
That should allow you to start using the servo but now you have to tune it. There may be an Auto-tune feature but often
you will still tweak the tuning parameters by hand. Its a slow process involving a dozen or so parameters.

Craig

[joeavaerage]

Hi,
setting up an servo may seem daunting, and it iU]is[/U] a learning curve. The good news is that once you learn it you can apply it elsewhere.
Almost all modern servos a broadly speaking identical to each other, so if you can program one you can program them all. Every manufacturer
has different terminology which may trip you up, and some have features which are seldom found, or go about calculating parameters in a different
manner, with a different numeric result thereby preventing you from swapping numbers from one drive to another, but despite the extraneous details
are the same.

Craig

[joeavaerage]

Hi,
I'm off sailing for the day, big racing regatta this weekend...

Craig

[mactec54]

Hi
I have this servo drive rs1a03aa sanmotion
Can anyone tell if it support pulse/dir commande or cw/ccw input

You have had a lot of replies, I have not seen anything on your startup.

First you need to use Jog mode to see if everything is working correct before moving on the the next step with CN1 connections

So once your power connections are verified as correct, then you can with the KeyPad use the mode key to set the Jog settings if you have the manual this is in section 6 Operation Jog operation
this will also get you familiar with the KeyPad use.

If you need the manual, you can find it here
http://www.robosan.com.tr/pdfs/SANYO...R%20MANUAL.pdf

[mactec54]

Ok ,so i will buy the cable and do the parametring
Just qustion what are the parametre that i should modify if i choose pulse control

No, you are being confused by these posts, there is not very many Parameters that you have to set to get you up and running, everything can be done with the KeyPad take small steps and do the basic to start with, and that is to get into Jog mode and play with the KeyPad

[Diae]

Hi,
I'm off sailing for the day, big racing regatta this weekend...

Craig

Yes i thinks it seems difficult for me bacause it the first time dealing with a servo drive
Anyway i will practice and do the step that you tell me and see the result
Thanks you very much craig
Have a good time with the race

[Diae]

You have had a lot of replies, I have not seen anything on your startup.

First you need to use Jog mode to see if everything is working correct before moving on the the next step with CN1 connections

So once your power connections are verified as correct, then you can with the KeyPad use the mode key to set the Jog settings if you have the manual this is in section 6 Operation Jog operation
this will also get you familiar with the KeyPad use.

If you need the manual, you can find it here
http://www.robosan.com.tr/pdfs/SANYO...R%20MANUAL.pdf

Yes i agree with you , i will test the jog section and wiring then the board control ...etc

[Diae]

No, you are being confused by these posts, there is not very many Parameters that you have to set to get you up and running, everything can be done with the KeyPad take small steps and do the basic to start with, and that is to get into Jog mode and play with the KeyPad

I been waiting for the control board to arrive i have bought one , so monday i will start all the steps that you helped me with

[mactec54]

I been waiting for the control board to arrive i have bought one , so monday i will start all the steps that you helped me with

You only need the servo motor and Encoder connected to the drive then the main power input connections make sure you have a disconnect for turning it On / Off

Don't forget the Ground wire connection from the incoming Main Power supply to the servo drive.

Do you have the CNA, Plug, this has the main Power and control power connections.

No CN1 connections are not needed for Jogging

You don't need the control Board to setup and do Jog Testing

[Diae]

You only need the servo motor and Encoder connected to the drive then the main power input connections make sure you have a disconnect for turning it On / Off

Don't forget the Ground wire connection from the incoming Main Power supply to the servo drive.

Do you have the CNA, Plug, this has the main Power and control power connections.

No CN1 connections are not needed for Jogging

You don't need the control Board to setup and do Jog Testing

The machine was working well the only problem that i have is alphacam software demande a licence maybe or a code so i want to change all the control systeme to mach3 or nc studio
So i think for jogging it will work well and for the power supply and all the conection are aleready exist
My ideas is just modifying parametre for control mode a simple wiring with the new controller board
Pic in attachments

[mactec54]

The machine was working well the only problem that i have is alphacam software demande a licence maybe or a code so i want to change all the control systeme to mach3 or nc studio
So i think for jogging it will work well and for the power supply and all the conection are aleready exist
My ideas is just modifying parametre for control mode a simple wiring with the new controller board
Pic in attachments

Woo slow down, Alphacam has nothing to do with your machine control. Alphacam is the cam software that you make your programs in,

You don't need to do any of this, your machine is already a wired running machine

What is your Machine and what kind on control is on it? take some photos of everything

[Diae]

Woo slow down, Alphacam has nothing to do with your machine control. Alphacam is the cam software that you make your programs in,

You don't need to do any of this, your machine is already a wired running machine

What is your Machine and what kind on control is on it? take some photos of everything

How can i move motor with jog mode

[mactec54]

How can i move motor with jog mode

You have to take some photos of your machine and control, so we know what your machine is and what control it has.

You don't need to do this Jog test, unless this was a new machine build, you would do this as the drives where being installed, your system was already installed and has been running

What control does the machine have.

[Diae]

You have to take some photos of your machine and control, so we know what your machine is and what control it has.

You don't need to do this Jog test, unless this was a new machine build, you would do this as the drives where being installed, your system was already installed and has been running

What control does the machine have.

The control is in pic

[Diae]

You have to take some photos of your machine and control, so we know what your machine is and what control it has.

You don't need to do this Jog test, unless this was a new machine build, you would do this as the drives where being installed, your system was already installed and has been running

What control does the machine have.

Here is the photos

[Diae]

You have to take some photos of your machine and control, so we know what your machine is and what control it has.

You don't need to do this Jog test, unless this was a new machine build, you would do this as the drives where being installed, your system was already installed and has been running

What control does the machine have.

So i have opened the CN1 connector and find the pins that are already in use with the original wiring from the factory
So ,what i should add , any shematic for new wiring of course for pulse commande ( symbol + pulse train)
Pic in attachement for the actual cn1 wiring