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    Gentlemen,

    I got the 500 watt Sanyo Denke motor working very nicely this afternoon. After discussing it with Vladimir last night on the phone, he pressed me to check the phasing again with the encoder disconnected like the Rutex.com R9x setup and tune document that has a link in the R992H.pdf.

    If I had followed his detailed instructions precisely, I would have had better success the other two times I set out to phase the commutator. His documentation is very good.

    I did learn another thing today, however. On an ordinary three phase motor you can change the direction by switching any two wires of the three phase hook up. In a brushless motor you switch the encoder wires (switch the A's for the B's) to change the direction. Switching the motor power wires does not work. It took me too long to figure this out.

    So...I would say that anyone that is interested in a real bargain brushless motor...go for it! I will try the 1000 watt one on Friday after I receive my braking resistors from Digi-key. It must have them to obsorb the BEMF the motor generates when the motor is stopped.

    I'm sorry for the delay and any confusion I may have caused. As I said, my experience with brushless motors is limited. I'm glad that Vladimir is so knowledgable about motors.

    On the bright side, I can and will report exactly how to hook up these motors so that they come up and run for you the first time.

    These instructions are for the R992H. The info should be directly transferrable to the R2030's that I expect to have on hand around the first week of November.

    Motor power wires:

    Signal name:

    X (phase 1) Red
    Y (phase 2) Blue
    Z (phase 3) White

    Commutator:

    S1 Blue with black stripe
    S2 Red with black stripe
    S3 Green with black stripe

    Encoder wires:

    Channel A: Blue

    Channel A/: Brown

    Channel B: Purple

    Channel B/: Green

    The quick tune I did gave me these PID values:

    kp 376
    ki 15
    kd 244

    The kpid values will probably not transfer over. Each machine will have its own pid values.


    Tom Eldredge
    Rutex LLC

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    That's really good news Tom. I bought 6 of the 1000W motors and I hope that when you get yours, everything will work okay. I look forward to your testing. I am planing to order the new Rutex drive for my " beast of the beast" router.



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    Time for a shopping spree!

    Man style!

    thanks
    Michael T.
    "If you don't stand for something, chances are, you'll fall for anything!"


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    Default Thank you!

    I'm deeply impressed and gratefull for all the effort and steady stream of communication that has gone into figuring out these motors! Thank you to all of you who shared your experimental results.

    And a BIG thank-you to Rutex!

    -D



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    Quote Originally Posted by miljnor
    Time for a shopping spree!

    Man style!
    Much to my wife's disappointment, my motors will be delivered today.

    Gerry

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    I am thinking of getting some of these motors and was wondering what the encoder resolution is. Can anyone help.

    Everything in moderation, including moderation.


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    2000cpr.

    Darek



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    where did you buy the motors?



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    I have a few coming too. You can't go wrong at 40.00. The rutex forum sure became active when these motors were found.

    D. Paulson


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    $40 per motor? What`s wrong with these motors?



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    You need $200 drives to run them.

    Gerry

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