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    Default Re: 100W Reci Tube Installed in Redsail X700

    Hello, lemartien,
    what about me: I am still waiting for my tube from China )) And also we decided to order the factory tube, i.e. not Reci. This is because we asked the supplier to send us the pic of Reci tube and found that they were selling old Reci tubes - at least 3 years Reci have not produced this kind of old tubes.



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    Default Re: 100W Reci Tube Installed in Redsail X700

    I just check the price for a 100W reci s2 with factory and the price is doubled that from what i paid with Redsail. 320usd with redsail and 628usd with Reci. thats a huge difference and excluding shipping freight.



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    Default Re: 100W Reci Tube Installed in Redsail X700

    Quote Originally Posted by BatChat View Post
    Hello, lemartien,
    what about me: I am still waiting for my tube from China )) And also we decided to order the factory tube, i.e. not Reci. This is because we asked the supplier to send us the pic of Reci tube and found that they were selling old Reci tubes - at least 3 years Reci have not produced this kind of old tubes.
    hi,
    are you also going to change the lens ?

    G



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    Gelouk,

    I did not change any of the optics. Haven't seen any problems to this point in time, and it has been over a year since I made the change. Very happy with my RECI tube and happy with the results. - Rinconchuck



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    Default Re: 100W Reci Tube Installed in Redsail X700

    Where do I check on my HPVS to see if it is a Reci brand. My machine has a Reci 100 watt CO2 tube from the factory and it won't fire when set above 75% power.



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    Quote Originally Posted by zee2ker View Post
    Where do I check on my HPVS to see if it is a Reci brand. My machine has a Reci 100 watt CO2 tube from the factory and it won't fire when set above 75% power.
    Be careful with the HVPS, under the right conditions it has lethal voltages!

    What brand is your laser, is it a Redsail? Check on the back of your laser, there should be a tag stating who the manufacturer is. Once you know for sure what brand it is, contact your manufacturer for ideas and get the maximum working Ma of the tube . I have found Redsail to be fairly quick in responding to my inquiries. Other manufacturers, apparently, can be good or bad about getting back to you. For a Reci tube you can contact Reci directly for this info.

    I have installed two different Reci power supplies in two different machines (a Redsail X700 and a Redsail M900, I have a second Redsail X700, but it has a 80 watt SPT laser tube). In both cases, there were no distinquishing marks showing it as a Reci HVPS. Instead I had to rely on my vendors to provide with the correct HVPS.

    Have you done the following? 1. Place a multi-meter on Amp setting (or an Amp meter) in-line with the laser tube return line (this is the little wire near the laser exit lens). 2. Turn on the laser and set your laser controller output to 100%. While monitoring the return amperage on the multi-metier or the amp meter, run the laser tube for a few moments. Compare this reading with the recommended working current (amperage) for your tube. Reci recommends that a W4 tube (100W) should be no more than 26 to 28 Ma, with 26 Ma recommended. If you set you tube in this way, you will get the maximum life out of your tube. The tube set this way, should fire all the way to 100 %.on the controller. 3. If the output is to low or to high, there is an adjustment screw on your HVPS to either raise or lower you return current from your laser. Consult the documentation of your HVPS for the location and type of adjustment required.

    If none of this helps, try the folks at www.lightobject.com, they sell Reci laser tubes and HVPS's for repair and upgrade.

    Final thought, if you have a Ruida controller (either a 320or a 6442), there is a vendor setting that allows you to set the max % at which the laser will fire. Most controllers are set at either 100% or 99%, but if yours is set at 75% for any reason, it would not fire above 75%.

    Hope this helps and does not muddy the waters.

    rinconchuck



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    Quote Originally Posted by rinconchuck View Post
    Be careful with the HVPS, under the right conditions it has lethal voltages!

    What brand is your laser, is it a Redsail? Check on the back of your laser, there should be a tag stating who the manufacturer is. Once you know for sure what brand it is, contact your manufacturer for ideas and get the maximum working Ma of the tube . I have found Redsail to be fairly quick in responding to my inquiries. Other manufacturers, apparently, can be good or bad about getting back to you. For a Reci tube you can contact Reci directly for this info.

    I have installed two different Reci power supplies in two different machines (a Redsail X700 and a Redsail M900, I have a second Redsail X700, but it has a 80 watt SPT laser tube). In both cases, there were no distinquishing marks showing it as a Reci HVPS. Instead I had to rely on my vendors to provide with the correct HVPS.

    Have you done the following? 1. Place a multi-meter on Amp setting (or an Amp meter) in-line with the laser tube return line (this is the little wire near the laser exit lens). 2. Turn on the laser and set your laser controller output to 100%. While monitoring the return amperage on the multi-metier or the amp meter, run the laser tube for a few moments. Compare this reading with the recommended working current (amperage) for your tube. Reci recommends that a W4 tube (100W) should be no more than 26 to 28 Ma, with 26 Ma recommended. If you set you tube in this way, you will get the maximum life out of your tube. The tube set this way, should fire all the way to 100 %.on the controller. 3. If the output is to low or to high, there is an adjustment screw on your HVPS to either raise or lower you return current from your laser. Consult the documentation of your HVPS for the location and type of adjustment required.

    If none of this helps, try the folks at www.lightobject.com, they sell Reci laser tubes and HVPS's for repair and upgrade.

    Final thought, if you have a Ruida controller (either a 320or a 6442), there is a vendor setting that allows you to set the max % at which the laser will fire. Most controllers are set at either 100% or 99%, but if yours is set at 75% for any reason, it would not fire above 75%.

    Hope this helps and does not muddy the waters.

    rinconchuck

    Not quite right. If your controller is locked at 75%, it means that the max power is locked to the ceiling, 75%. If you set 'layer' power to 95%, the power will be limited to 75%. By the way, make sure you check for the max current vs. max%. For example, a 100W tube usually can reach full power (100W) at 25~26m. But a 100W laser power supply can delivery up to 34~36mA which is high enough to damage the laser tube from day to day operation. It won't kill the tube instantly but the life span may drop from 3000hrs to 500hrs or even worst. Make sure you have a current meter installed in your machine to monitor the max current. FYI, Reci is playing really hard for bad tube claim due to over current case. If the metal ring (inside of the laser tube) shows sign of purple color (over current), they will void the warranty instantly!!

    Regards
    Marco
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    Quote Originally Posted by speedythinker View Post
    Not quite right. If your controller is locked at 75%, it means that the max power is locked to the ceiling, 75%. If you set 'layer' power to 95%, the power will be limited to 75%. By the way, make sure you check for the max current vs. max%. For example, a 100W tube usually can reach full power (100W) at 25~26m. But a 100W laser power supply can delivery up to 34~36mA which is high enough to damage the laser tube from day to day operation. It won't kill the tube instantly but the life span may drop from 3000hrs to 500hrs or even worst. Make sure you have a current meter installed in your machine to monitor the max current. FYI, Reci is playing really hard for bad tube claim due to over current case. If the metal ring (inside of the laser tube) shows sign of purple color (over current), they will void the warranty instantly!!

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    Hello, I have a chinese laser cutting machine, a copy of a RedSail. I am having problems with the power of the co2 tube. Where can I check the max power in the controller to see if it is at a low %? Sorry for my bad english, I.m from Venezuela .. THanks in advance for any answer you can give me.

    Arqmoe,
    Caracas, Venezuela

    Arqmoe (Architect from Caracas, Venezuela)


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    Quote Originally Posted by arqmoe View Post
    Hello, I have a chinese laser cutting machine, a copy of a RedSail. I am having problems with the power of the co2 tube. Where can I check the max power in the controller to see if it is at a low %? Sorry for my bad english, I.m from Venezuela .. THanks in advance for any answer you can give me.

    Arqmoe,
    Caracas, Venezuela
    What controller card came with your laser machine?

    -Marco
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    Default Re: 100W Reci Tube Installed in Redsail X700

    Hello, where can I find which controller came with the laser machine?

    Thanks,

    Arqmoe (Architect from Caracas, Venezuela)


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    Default Re: 100W Reci Tube Installed in Redsail X700

    Quote Originally Posted by speedythinker View Post
    What controller card came with your laser machine?

    -Marco
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    Hello, where can I find which controller came with the laser machine?

    Thanks,

    Arqmoe (Architect from Caracas, Venezuela)


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    Default Re: 100W Reci Tube Installed in Redsail X700

    Post the image of your controller and I may be able to tell
    Or email me: Contactus@Lightobject.com

    -Marco
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