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    Dear Experts
    Good Morning
    Yesterday component loading hoist hit the operator panel after loading component and after that CNC was not booting , but after pressing Reset, booted up
    Today it is not at all booting
    Request your advice
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    Default Re: Okuma VMC Model MB56VBR

    Hi Rishi
    Which OSP on the machine
    You can take a photo of the screen during download.



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    Default Re: Okuma VMC Model MB56VBR

    Check for E-stop circuit plug connection. If unplugged by jarring, CNC will not boot. Of course look for any other visible damage to control panel by impact.

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    Default Re: Okuma VMC Model MB56VBR

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    Default Re: Okuma VMC Model MB56VBR

    Thanks to you all for response, please refer to details in attached image, sorry that i did not mention OSP details before
    Actually we found dust on CPU, cleaned and then booted up
    As u r aware, OS is windows Xp with I think 40GB Laptop Hard disk
    In Siemens 840D, we used to take clone of such Hard disk using Norton Ghost or Acronis Software and load the clone to fresh harddisk
    Then we used to connect fresh hard disk on the machine and keep machine hard disk as spare
    Please let us know if the same is possible in Okuma controller because local engineers are not very sure about and they are saying few files might get lost in the process of Imaging
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    Hi Rishi
    OSR P200 works from under Windows XP
    The standard image Hard disk creation procedure
    You can use the Norton Ghost or Acronis Software
    But first you need to backup the machine parameters

    Starting Windows XP Only
    If you are using the Maintenance Tools or Windows Explorer, it is necessary to start Windows XP
    only. [Outline Procedure]
    (1) Press the Power button from the Off state.
    (2) If the pointer such as is displayed on the Windows XP start screen , hold down the left side
    SHIFT key. (Immediately after cursor's being displayed)
    The Logon screen will be displayed. The defaults are as follows.
    User Name : Administrator
    Password : okuma + osp (all small letters).
    Press "OK" while holding down the SHIFT key to log on.
    (Push "SHIFT" at the same time as pushing "OK".)
    (3) Windows XP will start up without the NC equipment starting
    Double click on the following file in the Explorer screen and start the Maintenance Tool.
    C:\OSP-P\TOOLS\MaintenanceTool.exe
    The Maintenance Tool Menu screen will be displayed
    A shortcut will appear on the desktop MaintenanceTool



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    Default Re: Okuma VMC Model MB56VBR

    Thanks for detailed steps, we have already backed up Machine Parameters as per procedure shared by Okuma
    Regarding hard disk image, can we take out Hard disk of the machine, connect in stand alone PC and then clone Machine Hard disk using Norton or Acronis & finally restore this image to fresh hard disk and connect newly loaded Hard disk on the machine?
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    Hi Rishi
    Question: Regarding hard disk image, can we take out Hard disk of the machine, connect in stand alone PC and then clone Machine Hard disk using Norton or Acronis & finally restore this image to fresh hard disk and connect newly loaded Hard disk on the machine?
    Answer: Yes, you can perform this procedure.
    Usually there are three discs with the new machine
    Disc 1 Windows XP
    Disk 2 OSP
    Disk 3 Model of the machine, if CAS is installed on the machine
    These three discs are enough to restore the machine to working position.



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    Default Re: Okuma VMC Model MB56VBR

    I would recommend against imaging the hard disk. The machine is constantly updating registers for things such as tool changes, pallet indexes, timers, counters, offsets, Zero sets, etc. so when you take the "snapshot" you are almost guaranteeing that your backup will be no good. Like Sergeyrusa said, the machine comes with recovery disks. User them as primary recovery tool. If you are going to do an update to the system, first do a backup, then update, then restore. That will give you the best chance of a flawless recovery. In the event of a hard disk failure, use the 3 disks and then your last backup. Yes it's a good idea to backup regularly. The machine also has a "DATA PIP" function for capturing settings. This can also allow you to capture setup information for each job, so you may want to read up on it. It can save tons of time when changing between jobs. It creates an editable text file for you that can save nearly every setting in the machine. I keep a copy of this TOP file on my computer as a regular snapshot as well. That way you can always look up a setting in the text file to see over time if anything changed from it's original settings. TOP stands for Tools, Offsets, and Parameters. It can be your good friend once you get to know it.

    Best regards,

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    Default Re: Okuma VMC Model MB56VBR

    Quote Originally Posted by OkumaWiz View Post
    I would recommend against imaging the hard disk. The machine is constantly updating registers for things such as tool changes, pallet indexes, timers, counters, offsets, Zero sets, etc. so when you take the "snapshot" you are almost guaranteeing that your backup will be no good. Like Sergeyrusa said, the machine comes with recovery disks. User them as primary recovery tool. If you are going to do an update to the system, first do a backup, then update, then restore. That will give you the best chance of a flawless recovery. In the event of a hard disk failure, use the 3 disks and then your last backup. Yes it's a good idea to backup regularly. The machine also has a "DATA PIP" function for capturing settings. This can also allow you to capture setup information for each job, so you may want to read up on it. It can save tons of time when changing between jobs. It creates an editable text file for you that can save nearly every setting in the machine. I keep a copy of this TOP file on my computer as a regular snapshot as well. That way you can always look up a setting in the text file to see over time if anything changed from it's original settings. TOP stands for Tools, Offsets, and Parameters. It can be your good friend once you get to know it.

    Best regards,
    Yes, back up before you do any modification, it is very important.

    http://cncmakers.com/cnc/controllers/CNC_Controller_System/CNC_Retrofit_Package.html


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    Default Re: Okuma VMC Model MB56VBR

    hy rishikesh, you may remove the hdd for external backup, you may also put another inside the machine ... do whatever you wish, but don't edit data on the original hdd

    i tried a while ago to replace the hdd with a ssd, but i could not succed in installing the windows, because the service team did not had enough time, and they were the only ones to have the operating system disk ... after a while, i was told that is not possible to install on any other random hdd ( okuma uses some kind of securities, i don't know )

    did you succed with clonning ? kindly

    Last edited by deadlykitten; Yesterday at 04:02 AM.
    the human body has enough iron to make a nail ... i can also make the hammer :) i mean a plastic hammer


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