Many chips specification for Multus

[kurmay]

Hi

What is the meaning of Many chips spec for Multus machines?
and what is the difference between MANY CHIPS TOOL , MANY CHIPS 4, MANY CHIPS 8 and MANY CHIPS 12 ?
Which spec should I buy if I want to use triple axial holder?
Thanks.



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[deadlykitten]

hi kurmay, i don't have a multus, but isn't there an orientation g-code ? or is it possible to change the encoder origin, or some zero shift, from code ? there should be a parameter for that, and maybe you can acces it from code, so to avoid the special function / kindly

[kurmay]

Can anyone share program samples for multi edge cutting tools?
Thanks

[master8laster]

Kurmay, I cant yet but as soon as I get the option for multiple cutting edges I will.

[coreywadeadams]

Can anyone share program samples for multi edge cutting tools?
Thanks

I have the same triple holder but haven't registered it into the tool library yet... However, I do have a twin 80/55 tool that I use daily and it rocks! To properly register it so that it works with cas is a little tricky but doable. Instead of tool register, choose the button right next to it that says MCHP-TL register. Getting the models lined up and positioned correctly takes some playing with. I had to input and register both tools separately and choose their orientation based off this pic I'm attaching. To call up the 80 degree rougher I type TD=07030101 M323 and the 55 finisher is TD=01030101 M323. First 2 numbers are tool edge position, next 2 are turret position, then last 4 are actual tool number. So my edge positions for the twin tool are 1 and 7

[coreywadeadams]

Pic of turret positions.

I forgot to include that I'm on a u4000 with p300sa control...

[kurmay]

How can i use tool nose radius compendation function for higher than 96 tool.
This sample format is
TL=05210210 BT=0 M602
05 is tool index position
210 is the tool/offset number
where is nose radius?

[kurmay]

is possible to use TNRC when many chip active?

[deadlykitten]

hy kurmay, T* ( L D S ) may execute different arguments; try this :

 type 1 : T* ee rr tt oo ; 2 2 2 2 ; edge radius turret_station offset
 type 2 : T* ee ttt lll  ; 2 3 3   ; l : r+o, thus a combined link, somehow similar to vetf*

difference between those 2 types, may be based on how many sets of tool compensation are there : 32 ( standard ), 64, 96, 200, 999 ...

210 is the tool/offset number

seems you have more then 200 sets; in such a case, only ' type 2 ' may be available for your machine, considering that the ' optional data spec 200+ sets ' was installed ' normally '

for more infos, maybe you should check ' section s t and m functions ', inside the programing manual

What is the meaning of Many chips spec for Multus machines?

may be similar to the multi-tool spec, for radial turrets; i don't have a multus, but look a bit inside the the programing/special functions manuals; there should also be a copy inside the machine hdd; if you share those, i will take a look

and what is the difference between MANY CHIPS TOOL , MANY CHIPS 4, MANY CHIPS 8 and MANY CHIPS 12 ?

not sure about this, but may be the limit of how many ' ee ' sets are available inside the T* comand, thus if you have a tool with 3 edges, you may need ' many chips 4 ' ? also, maybe is possible to avoid this extra function, only by using wise the T comand : for example, i don't have the multi-tool function, but if i would put a tool with 3 edges, on a radial turret, on post 1, i would use T010101 T210121 and T130113

also, another thing, may be the limit for tool life management ( tool group, tool offset group, etc ) : for example, with 'many chips 4', maybe you are not allowed to declare more then 4 entities in a single management group

but, to use tool life management, you need to fix 1st the way your T comand works

kindly

[deadlykitten]

oh, i just had a simpler idea, that does not involve so much digging :
... put something in the M spindle, just to have it clamped
... mdi T89123456 ( try no repetitive patern, for example different digits ), v1 = veton, v2 = vetln, and maybe v3 = vetlp

v1 and v2 should tell you how the T comand works / kindly


ps :
... veton : offset number of active tool
... vetln : tool number of active tool ( turret/station index ) ( TN00 )
... vetlp : current used edge number ( Multi-edge Tool Index Opt., Mac/Mult )