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    Hey Guys;
    I'm just wondering if there is a good design for a DIY tool changer for my PRO? I followed Himey's design years ago and wasn't impressed with the complexity of the unit he designed. Seems to have to many moving parts and well, just looks complicated for what it does. I sure would appreciate the information if someone has mounted a different ATC system with a simple design such as that used by Tormach! I do realize that mounting is going to be a PITA but I'm sure it can be done.
    Many thanks in advance.
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    Default Re: Tool Changer for a Torus Pro

    Is Novakon still selling their tool changer?



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    Hey Michael;
    Don't know about the Novakon model. I was kinda hoping that this thread would start a conversation about what has or has not been done regarding tool changers.
    Oh well, maybe someone will pipe up.
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    I thought I wanted a toolchanger. Using the power draw bar made me realize I did not. All it takes is a chip getting on the spindle and there goes your Z height. Probably could arrange an air blast to clean that area though. I think the Novakon tool changer is made by one of the members here. Hopefully he can confirm if the tool changer is still available.



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    I think chip contamination will most definitely have to be addressed. I was reading the thread "where is John" and he mentioned in one of his entries the moving of the back cabinet to the side of the machine. That would solve the placement problem and make things much easier for installation of a simple tool changer like the Tormach. Adding an air blast should be simple.
    Thanks for the thoughts.
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    Ray posted at least one video of his ATC for the Torus Pro. Not sure if it was ever completed or made available for sale.

    I asked John a few months back about the new machine. He mentioned he was looking into PDBs and ATCs but nothing firm at that time. I think he will have little choice but to have a PDB and an ATC for the new mill to be a hit with new customers. If I were to purchase a new mill today both PDB and ATC would have to be a shipping product available the day I place my order. Novakon would be wise to remove the ATC and PDB as a recommended options for the Pulsar on their website if they never shipped one. The "COMING SOON" has been there since I purchased my Pulsar 3-1/2 years ago.

    You can purchase an ATC from Skyfire for $1299. You would have to figure out how to mount it on your mill and make your own TTS tool forks as well as how to interface it with your control. Skyfire ATC

    If you are looking for a project you can always purchase ATC plans. Here is a link to one for $40.00 CDN (~$30 USD) ATC Plans He has a video of it working on youtube and Instagram.



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    Default Re: Tool Changer for a Torus Pro

    Thanks Steve;
    I've seen many designs for an ATC and (at least in my tiny little mind), they are not complicated mechanical devices. The interface with a machine may be a little tricky but still doable. I've built my own PDB using the information Ray provided on his build thread and it works very well. Never had a tool pull out (to date) and is very repeatable. Interfacing wasn't too bad and having it "talk" to a changer should be fairly easy. As is mentioned above, the design of the Pro makes adding a conventional rotary ATC very difficult mechanically w/o modifying the back cabinet to allow mounting.
    Do I need a tool changer? Probably not but it would still be nice to have a decent design for the Novakon users.
    Sounds like a decent project and I'm kind of surprised that no one has tackled it yet.
    Thanks for the information. There are many tool changers available as an add on which still leads to the mounting problem.
    I was hoping this thread would spark some life back into the Novakon users.
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    I just noticed he is now selling his 10 tool ATC for the G704 for $2025 CAD ~$1500 USD. Electronics not included. I think it might be small for the Torus Pro but might fit the Pulsar. I do not have any connection to him other than I followed his ATC design journey on Instagam.

    https://alexandre-r-cyr.myshopify.co...no-electronics



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    Here is a video of one of the tool changers I have built for my RF45 converted machine. My plans are designed to be universal so that it can easily be fitted to more than one style machine.



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    Default Re: Tool Changer for a Torus Pro

    That setup looks as if the alignment of tool to spindle would be more accurate than the swing arm Ray designed.



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    Default Re: Tool Changer for a Torus Pro

    Hey Guys;
    Rich, I have a system very similar to yours about half built and never installed. I'm thinking of a system that is similars to the novakon design w/o the swing arm but maybe a rotating two tool tool handling design. Sorry about the weak description but it's kinda hard to explain. I'd use a carousel similar to rays but the tool handling arm would be a twin capture rotating arm that would grab the old tool and new tool at the same time, extract the tools from the carousel and spindle by grabing, lowering spinning 180 to place the new tool in and place the old tool back into the carousel at the new tool position. Again, sorry for the weak explanation. As soon as I get caught up on my existing projects, I'll start jotting down some thoughts on the design.
    Many thanks for your offer!
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    Default Re: Tool Changer for a Torus Pro

    I actually bought one of Rich's kits. I received the parts earlier this week. It will be awhile before I have time to get it fully up and going, but I'm going to do some rough assembly and fitment and take pics to show you guys how it goes.

    At first inspection, the parts look very nice!

    Micah



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