Ger21 did what you said with the file Magnus sent me and voila it opened and was able to see the design. I still cannot see the top of the carved section on it as its not on the drawing but again its great to know with guys like you and help from this forum that the not so knowledgable guys like myself are learning which is a great boost for me,many thanks guys and would like to see the finished product if any guys have this file and have cut it out on their machines. I am still in the planning stage of my machine and hopefully will get it going soon I hope CHEERS guys for all your help.