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    Default Alan's Grizzly 9x19 CNC Conversion

    I previously posted this info in another thread. However, since I am now working on my conversion in earnest (I got my router running). I thought I would go ahead an start my on lathe thread.

    Here are a few pictures of my variable speed conversion.

    I used a Pacific Scientific DC motor that had a shaft the same size as the OEM Emerson motor (5/8"). This allows the use of the original pulleys and belts.

    I made the motor adapter plate from a piece of 3/8" aluminum and a piece of 3/4" aluminum. I used a round-over bit to mill the recess for the motor.

    I made the controller bracket from 1"x1"x1/8" HR steel angle. It bolts to the same holes as the original switch bracket.

    I bought the Dan Foss C150 controller on ebay. It is currently using a pot to control the speed but it supports a 0-10v DC signal to control the speed. This can be obtained with the use of a board like the Digispeed boards from Homann in Australia.

    Alan

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    Default Controller in progress

    Here are a couple pictures of the power supply that I am building for my 9x20 CNC conversion.

    I designed a power supply board to make building power supplies easier.
    The first photo is a picture of the PS board. The second is the components mounted on an aluminum chassis that I formed at a friends shop.

    My ps chassis has my PS board, an Antek toroid transformer 23V 400VA to provide power, a 35,000uf 80v filter capacitor, (2) Superior Electric SS2000MD4 drives, and a CandCNC mini-io breakout board. It outputs about 32V dc at around 16amps. Should be enough??

    The power supply board has a full-wave bridge to rectify the AC, a surge limiter to keep input surge from doing bad things, a bleeder resistor, connections to the filter capacitor, and four fused outputs to the drives.

    For the lathe I only installed two fuse holders and two drives. I plan to use 2 PacSci 253oz. steppers, one to drive the leadscrew, and one to drive the crossfeed.

    Alan

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    Default Start of Crossfeed drive

    This part of the project originally began as a bearing support modification to the crossfeed leadscrew. I was never happy with that part of the design. It had a bronze bushing in the back end and a single ball bearing in the front end. For a manual screw it would have probably worked fine, but it always nagged at me. I had thought about several different schemes for mounting double bearings at the front end to take out any backlash there. One day I decided to just do it.

    I turned off most of the pocket for the front bearing. Then I cut another piece of aluminum and cut the remainder of the back bearing pocket in it. Then I flipped it around and cut the front bearing pocket in the opposite side. So the back bearing aligns the front part of the bracket with the rest of the body and together they support the screw radially and act as angular contact bearings.

    Next step was to design a method of driving the crossfeed with a stepper.

    Alan

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    Looks good. Are you planning to use a ball screw and ball nut on the Z axis?
    Like your X-axis hardware, is that the stock screw? I cnc'ed a 9X20 last year and it had a 16tpi acme that performed ok with about 200in/oz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron111 View Post
    Looks good. Are you planning to use a ball screw and ball nut on the Z axis?
    Like your X-axis hardware, is that the stock screw? I cnc'ed a 9X20 last year and it had a 16tpi acme that performed ok with about 200in/oz.
    Ron
    Yes, I am planning on using a ballscrew on the Z axis. I have a 6' length of 5/8"x5tpi ballscrew and a double ball nut.

    My X-axis has an extra 3/4" of travel. I replaced my original crossfeed lead screw with a 7/16"x20 leadscrew. The new crossfeed nut has an adjustment to reduce backlash. Eventually I hope to replace it with a ballscrew as well, but I haven't reached a final design for that yet. I am leaning towards a rotating ballnut and fixed ballscrew. That would allow me to have the crossfeed ballscrew in the original tunnel.

    Alan



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    Default CNC Crossfeed drive

    Once I figured out the manual bearing support setup for the crossfeed, the CNC drive was easy. I took a piece of 3/4"x4 aluminum bar and figured out the center for a 60T .2 pitch belt gear. Next I figured out the center location for a M23 Stepper motor.

    I machined front and rear bearing pockets to match the bearing pockets on the manual bearing support.

    Then because the stepper shaft was too short to go clear through the 3/4" material and support a belt gear on the other side, I milled a pocket on the reverse side to set the M23 stepper part way through the plate.

    Now I have to figure out the belt tensioner.

    Alan

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    Default Spindle Adjustment

    I took the spindle apart because I had read that part of the finish problems that I have had over time could be because of the spindle bearing adjustment. I had to drive the spindle out with a hammer and a block of hardwood. When I mic'd the rear bearing journal, it was 1.3780. I mic'd the inside of the rear bearing and it was 1.3776. I also checked the inside micrometer against the outside micrometer and they were in agreement. I chucked of the spindle in my other lathe and used a fine flat file and some 400 wet or dry sandpaper to achieve a snug sliding fit.

    Then I discovered that the gear and pully wouldn't slide on either. There, I discovered that the key didn't want to come out of the spindle slot. I finally clamped vise grips on the key and used a brass hammer to tap the vise grips. It took about twenty tries before I finally got the key loose. Without the key in both the gear and the pulley were an easy sliding fit. So, I dressed the sides of the key until I could hand press it in and pull it back out with pliers. Then everything would go together properly.

    I cleaned up the bearings, greased them with "Super Lube" a teflon bearing grease. I put it all back together and adjusted the fit.

    Now I need to cut something to see if it improves the finish.

    Alan



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    Default DRO-Lathe

    I know that I ultimately don't need the DRO after I have it CNC'd, but I need it right now. So I am trying to mount my Shumatech DRO-350 on my G4000 as a temporary measure.

    I already had the DRO, QC-100 quadrature to chinese signal converters, USDigital encoders and encoder strips(7" and 22"). So it is a question of mounting.

    I took a small piece of delrin and machined a holder for one of the encoders. I machined a slot into the holder so that it would slide on the edge of a piece of 1" square aluminum that I cut a 0.625 slot in the bottom.

    I still need to mount the linear encoder strip in the aluminum tube and mount the whole thing to the cross-slide. Then I have to do the same thing for the bed to carriage encoder.

    Alan

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    Nice job!



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    twocik,

    Thanks for looking, I am reworking the encoder mount/slide. I am trying to resolve interference between it and the gib adjusters on the crossfeed.

    I thought about mounting the encoder on the chuck side of the crossfeed but then it limits how close I can get to the chuck (while at the back it limits how close you can get the tailstock to the crossfeed). It makes some of the ideas about using a cable driven encoder sound enticing. Oh, problems, problems. Well a new tailstock design would solve that, but I promised myself no new projects till I finish those already on my plate.

    Alan



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    Default Reworked Encoder Slides

    I got the encoder carrier redesigned. Now it has slots for slides on both sides and it will clear the gib adjusting screws on the cross-slide.

    I got some 3/8 x 3/8 ground stock to mount the encoder strip. I am going to machine a couple of delrin plugs so that chips can't enter the ends of the square tube. Then I have to fasten the encoder strip to the 3/8 x 3/8 spacer. Then I will have the first tube done. I want to hook it up to the DRO and test it before I mount it on the lathe.

    Then I still have to cut the slot in the Z-axis tube, put the Z-axis all together and mount everything on the lathe.

    Alan

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    Default Manual Controller

    I have been working on a controller that will allow the lathe to work in manual mode (no gcode) using the cnc electronics. I designed a small circuit board that has two modes. The first mode acts as a variable speed automatic feed and the second mode uses an encoder to generate steps as the handle is turned. You can select either the X or Z axis in either mode.

    Alan

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