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    Default Does Anyone Have This Control Box on their Chinese 6040 Router

    Does anyone have this control box on their Chinese 6040 Router? I have some questions.

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    Default Re: Does Anyone Have This Control Box on their Chinese 6040 Router

    To get an answer from cnczone members

    it may help to know what your questions are

    a photo of the inside of your box will help to identify what you have and tailor
    the answer

    there has been threads on setting up various versions of the spindle VFD


    depending on the builder

    what looks like identical control boxes can have different electronics inside

    they can have different breakout boards or motion controllers

    some are easier to add your own limit switches / home switches
    other boards don't have all components fitted

    various stepper drivers are also used

    John

    PS

    part of a wiring for a version of a 6040 cnc control box

    Does Anyone Have This Control Box on their Chinese 6040 Router-6040-tx14207-tb6560-stepper-driver-wiring-jpg

    being Chinese
    the spindle motor wiring needs looking at

    they have used a chassis mounting plug on the box as the VFD output !!!

    on machines they have used a 4 core cable to connect the spindle motor
    they have a habit of not connecting the 4th pin inside of the spindle motors plug
    to the motors body
    so you have no earth connection between the VFD and spindle motor body



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    Default Re: Does Anyone Have This Control Box on their Chinese 6040 Router

    Thank you. I did not realise they varied. I don't know much about electronics so please keep it simple :-).

    Here are some pics.

    Questions:

    First, at the moment I am using the turn knob on the box to control the spindle and I would like to do better than that. I would at least like to get the run and stop buttons working on the front of the box and maybe control the spindle via Mach3?

    Second, I would love a touch plate for setting the z axis?

    Third, I got the spindle stuck in one spot when a part moved while the job was running and hit the stop button. What do these jambs do to my stepper motors? Everything seems fine though.

    Mike

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    Default Re: Does Anyone Have This Control Box on their Chinese 6040 Router

    from my collection of notes for the 6040 control boxes
    this is the wiring for the spindle control

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    I suspect they use what ever cable is cheapest at the time
    so the colour coding of the wiring may not be consistent

    if my diagram is 100% correct the spindle earth is a green wire and not green/yellow as expected

    with the manual / PC switch in the PC control position

    your control software (mach3 ?) needs to control the relay via pin 17 to switch the spindle on & off
    and send a PWM signal to pin 1 to control the speed


    other cnczone members must have written or found the mach3 script to use a touch probe with this box

    I have not seen a mach3 script to use a touch probe with your control box
    but expect some found on the net can be used provided your touch probe is connected the same input as defined in the script
    (some thing I have to look at some time)


    unlike other motors
    stalling a stepper motor does no harm
    as the motor current is controlled by the stepper motor driver and does not increase with mechanical load

    in another thread
    some one posted a picture of an earth wire added inside a spindle motor

    Does Anyone Have This Control Box on their Chinese 6040 Router-adding-earth-connection-jpg

    If you find the internal earth connection is missing from your spindle
    and don't want to open the motor
    I guess you could use an existing screw to fasten an earth wire to the exterior
    of the spindle motor

    John

    Last edited by john-100; 07-16-2018 at 07:47 AM. Reason: correct typo


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    Default Re: Does Anyone Have This Control Box on their Chinese 6040 Router

    Would you be able to take some screen shots of the spindle setup in Mach3 please John?



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    Default Re: Does Anyone Have This Control Box on their Chinese 6040 Router

    just before I went on holiday I packed away the PC I use to run Mach3
    so it may be a couple of days before I can set it up as if I had your control box and take screen grabs

    for now
    from a 6040 manual I down loaded I have saved a few pages to get you going

    page8 note to setup VFD
    page8.pdf

    to setup mach3

    lower half of page11 motor outputs - set up pin 1 to control spindle speed
    page11.pdf

    page 12
    page12.pdf

    lover half of page 15 set pin 17 to control BOB relay to switch spindle on & off
    page15.pdf

    John



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    Default Re: Does Anyone Have This Control Box on their Chinese 6040 Router

    Thanks John. No need for the Mach3 screen shots. This should do the job - thank you.



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