Trouble with Galil plugin

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I have a Galil DMC 1040 card. This card is an ISA bus card.
I have read the plugin will work with PSI or Ethernet cards.
Everytime I start Mach it tells me the galil dll plugin is defective. I downloaded it from the mach support site. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
Thank you for any help,
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[ger21]

You'll need to delete the plugin from the plugins folder to get rid of that message. The reason for the message is because the card you have won't work with the plugin. Unless you have a supported Galil card, you'll get an error message.

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Thanks for the reply,
Do you know if there is a plugin that would work with this card?
Or who I would contact to find out?
Thank you,
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[Al_The_Man]

I would think if you join the official Mach news group on the Mach site you could pose the question.
I would look forward also to see a bit more flexibility as to Galil, I also have several 1000 series cards, but I suspect being ISA (semi obsolete) there will not be much ambition to support these.
Al.

[ger21]

The ISA bus isn't fast enough to work with Mach3, that's why it's not supported. It's impossible to get that card to work with Mach3.

Thanks for the reply,
Do you know if there is a plugin that would work with this card?
Or who I would contact to find out?
Thank you,
Cutmore

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Thanks for the info, I will post on the Mach site and ask for help there.
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[Al_The_Man]

The ISA bus isn't fast enough to work with Mach3, that's why it's not supported. It's impossible to get that card to work with Mach3.

The irony is the card is more than fast enough for CNC purposes, it is probabally because the commands are sent one at a time, instead of downloading a full memory of code to the Galil.
I run the Galil 1000 or even 600 this way, I am just looking for a bit better HMI.
Al.

[ger21]

It's due to the way Mach was originally written. Art never envisioned where it would be today. The next version of Mach (called Quantum) will be a complete rewrite and may open the door for more options.

[scottrollerman]

If the Mach3 won't work with the Galil DMC-1140 what will? I just bought a older 4 axis router and hopping to get it running.

[Al_The_Man]

Does the router have a Galil card in it, if so what was it running on before?
With the older ISA and stand-alone units like the 1500 series, You virtually have to run with the native commands, for the 1500 I use a operator interface like the Maple Systems.
For the DMC-1000 I use an old HMI software that Galil no longer sells called OPINT.
But although you can run any motion configuration you can dream up, the interface is not typical G,M code entry.
Unless you can find someone that wrote an HMI using Visual Basic.
Al.

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Have anyone ever tried the galil plugin with a DMC1000 card?

I have a DMC1040 and am trying to set that up with Mach3.
I got my card talking to the pc with dmcsmart term, and now am trying to get mach to talk to the Galil. I had this card talking to a different pc which died, through the galil term program & when I loaded Mach it would display defective plugin.
On this pc I loaded the r2.48 version of Mach, the latest drivers from Galil, and now mach loads, I can go to configure plugins. But after I hit O.K. Mach will timeout without finding the Galil.
Can anyone tell me if it sounds like I have a snowball's chance in Hell of this ever working please?
If not could someone direct me on what the best set-up with Mach to run servos would be? The machine is a Bridegport Boss8 SEM servos. I would like to re-use the analog drives if possible.

Thanks for any Help,
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[ger21]

Ask on the forum at www.machsupport.com Brian, who wrote the plugin, spends most of his time there.

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Thanks Gerry,
I posted on the other site, Hopefully I can get 'er working.
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[Al_The_Man]

I only wish that it would work with the 1000 but I think you may be out of luck, if you find out you can, post it here for sure.
The other option using Mach, is to get step/dir to analogue converters to use with your existing drives, there are some leads for these in some of the forums.
When I have the time, I am trying to program a DMC-1000 G,M code interface to work with OPINT & DOS7.1, I just took on another major project (using Galil) so it is on the back-burner again.
Al.

[scottrollerman]

People at Galil didn't think Mach3 would work with the DMC-1040 in my used 4axis router. I was told Mach3 should work with DMC-1840 so I upgraded to a DMC-1840 and 100pin cable from Ebay. Purchased a CB1500-100 board from Galil $50 to convert the old I/O and Main ribbon cables to 100 pin. Total cost $650 Once I upgrade the computer, 98 to XP I'll load Mach3 and cross my fingers.

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Thanks for all the replies,
I tried again last night and same thing, after mach boots, go to config plugins & check galil plugin. When you select o.k. mach tries to find the galil for ~10 seconds then displays " timeout error occured" And then Mach is pretty well defunct at that point. I wonder if it could be the adress(Galil set for 1000).
I tried different interrupt settings but have not tried different adresses yet.

Al,
I have a friend who does control retrofits on routers & plasma cutters. He has a software package that he thinks will work with the Galil Dmc 1000 series cards. I am trying to get him to come over this weekend so we can try it out. If it works I will let you know. I am not sure how much he gets for the software but I will find out.
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[bbutcher85710]

I have been using Mach3 with a DMC1750 controller and 3 axis servo motors and encoders for years. It works fine, and speed has not been an issue. The only problem I have had is with ver 4.6 of the Galil-ST plugin, which does not update the DRO correctly. It seems to operate open loop rather than closed loop the way Steve Murphy says it should. Ver 4.4 seems to work OK, but may have other issues. The way to tell if it is updating correctly is to power the motors down while Mach3 is open, and move one or more motors manually. The DRO should update the move if it is reading the encoders. You can also turn power off to the motors and send a G-code command from Mach3, e.g. G1 X1 F20. The DRO should not change if it is working correctly. If it changes, Mach3 thinks you have a stepper motor and an open loop system, which is the case with ver 4.6.

[bbutcher85710]

The timeout message when trying to config the plugin is also a bug in ver 4.6 of the plugin.