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    Default HAAS warm up program

    Anybody out there have the warm up program that HAAS usually includes with their machines. I have a VF-OE with 30 by 16 travel. I have tried to write one, but always have some mistake in there. It always over travels. It would be from machine Zero after power up.

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    The normal Haas warm up program does not have any axis moves included. If you are getting overtravel you must be including axis moves that are too long for your machine.

    Anyway here it is:

    http://www.cnczone.com/forums/543347-post6.html

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    Like Geof said, I've purchased(or have been in the process of purchasing) many new haas' and have never seen a warm up that moved the axis'...I always write my own.

    Tim


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    I may be wrong, but you are not going to put any "HEAT" into the ballscrews with a "Warm-up" program. You would have to runs for hours to do so and by the time you go to run your parts it would have cooled off. The best you would do is spread and waste a little lube.

    Again, the warm-up program for the spindle is to purge settled oil in the spindle before high RPM usage, to prevent it from over heating. It is not to warm it up. If you really do want to warm it up, then run the oil purge program then just set it to 7500 RPM or whatever your max is and let it run. I see no purpose in this though.

    Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machineit View Post
    I may be wrong, but you are not going to put any "HEAT" into the ballscrews with a "Warm-up" program. You would have to runs for hours to do so and by the time you go to run your parts it would have cooled off. The best you would do is spread and waste a little lube.

    Again, the warm-up program for the spindle is to purge settled oil in the spindle before high RPM usage, to prevent it from over heating. It is not to warm it up. If you really do want to warm it up, then run the oil purge program then just set it to 7500 RPM or whatever your max is and let it run. I see no purpose in this though.

    Mike

    If you have a problem with calling it a warm up....talk to Haas. The reason I run the machine in it's axis' (as well as the spindle) is because it helps every single haas I've ever been on "warm up"...or get out that .001" of movement that they ALL have...

    As far as the spindle not warming up....
    See: thermal - definition of thermal by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WallyL7 View Post
    If you have a problem with calling it a warm up....talk to Haas. The reason I run the machine in it's axis' (as well as the spindle) is because it helps every single haas I've ever been on "warm up"...or get out that .001" of movement that they ALL have...

    As far as the spindle not warming up....
    See: thermal - definition of thermal by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.
    Not trying to p--s you off, just trying to explain to those who do not know that warm-up is a slight misnomer. And no, I will not recommend that Hass change the name to "The Daily Oil Purging and Thermal Stabilization Program."

    I have seen posts years ago where newbies wondered why their spindle was not "warm" after the warm-up, which is why I was posting what I did.

    Do as you wish and enjoy.

    Love and peace---Mike

    Two Haas VF-2's, Haas HA5C, Haas HRT-9, Hardinge CHNC 1, Bother HS-300 Wire EDM, BobCAD V23, BobCAD V28


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    Default Haas Factory Support

    Regardless of support for your endeavor, here is the code:

    G91
    G00 X30.
    Y16.
    X-30.
    Y-16.
    X30. Y16.
    X-30. Y-16.

    Thanks,
    Ken Foulks


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    Quote Originally Posted by Machineit View Post
    Not trying to p--s you off, just trying to explain to those who do not know that warm-up is a slight misnomer. And no, I will not recommend that Hass change the name to "The Daily Oil Purging and Thermal Stabilization Program."

    I have seen posts years ago where newbies wondered why their spindle was not "warm" after the warm-up, which is why I was posting what I did.

    Do as you wish and enjoy.

    Love and peace---Mike
    I think most realize it is a generic term that gets things lubed and thermally stabilized (whatever you want that to mean).

    I believe whole heartily that it will prolong your machines life to properly warm up and cool down every time you use it.

    And no....not p--sed off!

    Tim


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    I feel a "kumbaya" moment coming on.

    Peace, love, and happiness for all. Oh and a couple of never hurt either.



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    Pardon the terms:

    Lubed
    thermally stabilized
    love
    peace
    beer....
    and Kumbaya

    This thread really went somewhere it shouldn't have...

    Thanks for putting the light on that haastec

    Tim


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    Quote Originally Posted by haastec View Post
    I feel a "kumbaya" moment coming on.

    Peace, love, and happiness for all. Oh and a couple of never hurt either.
    I have to stop at a couple?

    Two Haas VF-2's, Haas HA5C, Haas HRT-9, Hardinge CHNC 1, Bother HS-300 Wire EDM, BobCAD V23, BobCAD V28


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    Quote Originally Posted by Machineit View Post
    I have to stop at a couple?
    A couple never hurt, more is always better!!



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    my mini mill came with a test program that moved the axis but i accidently deleted it



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    Default Re: HAAS warm up program

    Hi, here is mine

    (Don't run with an empty spindle)
    (Use G56 for Work Offset)
    G90 G80 G40 G17 G20 G50 G64
    G28 G91 Z0
    T116 M06
    M3 S1000
    G90 G56 G01 X0. Y0. F300.
    M97 P9001 L12
    M3 S2500
    G90 G56 G01 X0. Y0. F300.
    M97 P9001 L12
    M3 S5000
    G90 G56 G01 X0. Y0. F300.
    M97 P9001 L12
    M3 S7500
    G90 G56 G01 X0. Y0. F300.
    M97 P9001 L10
    M3 S10000
    G90 G56 G01 X0. Y0. F300.
    M97 P9001 L5
    M5
    M998
    G80 G28
    M30
    N9001 (SUB PROGRAM)
    M31
    G01 G90 G56 X0 Y0. Z-3. F300.
    G0 G90 X5. Y0.
    G3 I-5. Z-9. F350.
    G0 G90 X0.Y0.
    G00 G28 G91 Z0
    M99



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    Default Re: HAAS warm up program

    Quote Originally Posted by lestico View Post
    Hi, here is mine

    (Don't run with an empty spindle)
    (Use G56 for Work Offset)
    G90 G80 G40 G17 G20 G50 G64
    G28 G91 Z0
    T116 M06
    M3 S1000
    G90 G56 G01 X0. Y0. F300.
    M97 P9001 L12
    M3 S2500
    G90 G56 G01 X0. Y0. F300.
    M97 P9001 L12
    M3 S5000
    G90 G56 G01 X0. Y0. F300.
    M97 P9001 L12
    M3 S7500
    G90 G56 G01 X0. Y0. F300.
    M97 P9001 L10
    M3 S10000
    G90 G56 G01 X0. Y0. F300.
    M97 P9001 L5
    M5
    M998
    G80 G28
    M30
    N9001 (SUB PROGRAM)
    M31
    G01 G90 G56 X0 Y0. Z-3. F300.
    G0 G90 X5. Y0.
    G3 I-5. Z-9. F350.
    G0 G90 X0.Y0.
    G00 G28 G91 Z0
    M99
    Why are you using a G28G91Z0 at the start of the program this is not needed as you have a tool call

    1000RPM even though this is what Haas has in the warmup program, it is to fast for the startup for oil mist spindles, it should be around 400, this gets the built up oil moved away at 1000 the Bearing can skid, yes that's the strange noise you hear sometimes in startup at high speed without a correct warmup, skidding causes wear that you don't need to have

    You are just wearing out your machine also with all the table movement just moving the table and Z axis around no more than twice is all that is needed to move the lube around it serves no purpose but to add extra wear on your machine

    Mactec54


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