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    Default Glacern vises and tool holders how good are they

    I have put on my hazards protection suit and have heard all the why we should buy made n USA BUT this question was put to me today.

    It may mean that I can expand my shop by one or maybe two people so I am trying to but Americans back to work. We are buying Haas Mills not new but better than I have now.

    How many of you shop owners have bought these tool holders and the 4", 6" and double 6" vises and what do you think of them? Glacern makes some bold claims and they take good pictures.

    You can answer me by PM or to my email if you don't have a hazard suit handy.

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    I just bought some of their drill chucks last week. Best drill chucks I've used, Can't detect any runout. They stay concentric to the taper because they're all one piece. I have yet to try any other products from them however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aadrew10 View Post
    I just bought some of their drill chucks last week. Best drill chucks I've used, Can't detect any runout. They stay concentric to the taper because they're all one piece. I have yet to try any other products from them however.

    - Andrew
    Have you ever used the Mari Tool drill chucks, I was wondering how they compare to Glacern quality wise?

    I'm in the middle of tooling up a VF2 and have worked out a spread sheet comparing Mari Tool and Glacern costs (tool for tool). In all, Glacern in a little cheaper, I'm just not sure which is better quality. Both companies have a pretty good reputation from what I've read.

    I have a Glacern vice I'm real happy with, but I have only used it on a knee mill so far.



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    Quote Originally Posted by l u k e View Post
    Have you ever used the Mari Tool drill chucks, I was wondering how they compare to Glacern quality wise?

    I'm in the middle of tooling up a VF2 and have worked out a spread sheet comparing Mari Tool and Glacern costs (tool for tool). In all, Glacern in a little cheaper, I'm just not sure which is better quality. Both companies have a pretty good reputation from what I've read.

    I have a Glacern vice I'm real happy with, but I have only used it on a knee mill so far.

    I haven't used any Maritool drill chucks. I just purchased some of their tool holders and am waiting for them in the mail.



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    Just curious how did you check the runout on the glacern drill chuck?



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    I put a .256 gage pin in the chuck with a .0001 dial test indicator. Moving up and down the pin about a half inch, the gage never showed more than a half tick on the indicator.



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    I use 4" double Kurt vises in my mills. They work awesome but do need new seals every few years or so. I have 9 mounted in 2 Haas mills (3 in vf2, 6 in vf3) and have been using them for about 12 years now with satisfaction. Buck Chucks mounted in my toolroom lathes and most of my tooling is Kennametal. I never used Glacern or Maritool since I have MSC right in my backyard.



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    I have some Glacern CAT 40 tool holders and some from Mari Tool. All are about 2 years old now. Two of five Glacern ones are showing a bit of fretting on the taper. The Mari ones don't show any wear yet (I have nine of those). I actually have larger tools and thus take heavier cuts with tools in the Mari ones. One of the Mari ones did get a little flash rust on the taper from me holding it in my hand on a very hot day, but it cleaned right up with scotch brite. The Glacern holder that shows the most wear is an integral CAT 40/drill chuck which I find odd since it should not see any appreciable side loading.

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    Sol at Glacern gave me a great deal on my first tooling purchase for my VF2. So in a few years I'll have something worth while to add to this thread.



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    Hi,

    I purchased the 5 inch standard Glacern vise a few weeks ago after a lot of deliberating and research: I'm really happy with it. It just looks like a tool that was made with both care and attention to detail.

    I, probably like a lot of guys, first looked into buying the slightly cheaper straight-from-China imports, but in my opinion, even from their marketing pictures, I felt they looked a bit, let's say... junky. The fact that Glacern is a US company, with North American standards (even if it's made overseas) was an important consideration for me, and I'm Canadian. The shipping/brokerage/taxes etc ended up costing about $150 on a $250 vise, but that's part in parcel with doing business and I have no regrets. It would be nice though if eventually Glacern could set someone up as a distributor on this side of the border.

    Frank



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    I'm not saying good or bad. I'm not saying buy American or not. That's all your choice. What I will caution about is spindles. That's what this all boils down to. Are you comfortable enough to try this holder in a 5k dollar+ spindle? And I will tell you to at least buy the best retention knobs you can. I've seen 40k dollars worth of carnage from broken retention knobs, over and over.



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    I have 4 vises from Shars shars.com - 6quot 670V CNC Milling Machine Vise 00004quot
    These are very nice high quality vises. I believe these are manufactured by the same company as Glacern's. I also have a bunch of there cat30 ER32 and 16 tool holders. No complaints with them at all. All top quanity



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