agie 120 hard disk problem

[tintin2005]

hi yks!

i am glad to ear from you again.
i am expecting for you to have some extra time...
i the meanwhile i am going to dig a litle bit...

regards

tintin2005

[yks]

Hello!

To continue...
If you have an "alien" image rather than original one or you have only a set of files (not an image)
you could undertake the next steps.

1. After formatting and partitioning as described below install DR-DOS 5.0 or DR-DOS 6.0 on the pure HDD.
To do so download the distributive packet of diskettes for installation.
Please do not confuse the bootable diskette and the installation diskette(s).
2. Install or just copy the Norton Commander let's say on disc D or E.
3. Copy files to root catalogue on disc C. These files have a little size so you may carry them over simply on diskettes.
4. Copy CU91 folder to disc C. This folder is not great too and is also carriable on diskette(s).
5. Try to substitute some files in root directory and/or CU91 folder totally.

Actually you should study the file structure on disc C as severe as possible.
The learning and the substitution of these files are key moments to achieve progress.

Regards

[tintin2005]

Hi yks!

Can you empty your private mail box, please?

In the meanwhile, can anybody help me?
I need to know how to format in FAT 12 under DR_DOS 5.0 or 6.0 ( device research)


thank you.

regards

tintin2005

[tintin2005]

hello
no solution at this time
i start agie with an 260 mo hdd
but i'm blocking at this stage:
checking security device
i don't no if it is software protection or other problem
i go to make test with 120 Mo hdd
original hdd on agie is 120 mo hard drive
with 4 partitions
c: 6 Mo
d: 40 Mo
e: 40 Mo
F: 28 Mo

have you a ghost image or other of your hdd ?? Sif369

to be continued
some help are more appreciable
bye

Hello !!!

are these partitions sizes to be exact size? how can i do it with dr-dos 6.0? i can´t choose size in Mb....

thanks

tintin2005

[yks]

Hi yks!

Can you empty your private mail box, please?

In the meanwhile, can anybody help me?
I need to know how to format in FAT 12 under DR_DOS 5.0 or 6.0 ( device research)


thank you.

regards

tintin2005

Hello!
Please do not worry about FAT.
Just boot DR-DOS from diskette and run the fdisk utility: a:\fdisk
And follow instructions the fdisk utility will prompt.

Regards

[tintin2005]

HI Yks!

I did it just like you say, but got " checkinhg security device".

i did like this:

a:fdisk

it says: Partitions on 1st hard disc(503.5 Mb,1023 cylinders):
Use cylinders 0 - 1022 ( for dos( 503.5Mb (Y/N):N
starting cylinder :0
end cylinder : 99
total blocks: 251228 ( 49.1 Mb aprox)
....volume AGIE-C


and so on to the other partitions

It is not necessary to execute format command after restarting?

After fdisk hdd, open norton ghost to restore image and i can see that the c: image fat is FAT12 and the physical hdd c:\ is FAT16.
Can this be the reason for " checkinhg security device"?


When using winimage to recover hdd c: i get the error in the image attached. Anybody help?
( it says drive d: because it is attached to a windows computer, in fact is agie´s drive c


regards

tintin2005

[yks]

I did it just like you say, but got " checkinhg security device".

i did like this:

a:fdisk

it says: Partitions on 1st hard disc(503.5 Mb,1023 cylinders):
Use cylinders 0 - 1022 ( for dos( 503.5Mb (Y/N):N
starting cylinder :0
end cylinder : 99
total blocks: 251228 ( 49.1 Mb aprox)
....volume AGIE-C


and so on to the other partitions

Hi,tintin2005!

It is exactly as we did. You are on the right path.

Did you enter Agie BIOS to check/set the HDD settings?

We had seen the "Check security device" message at the next circumstances:

When we already had the repaired and fully working Agie WDM we wanted to replace our old HDD with more "modern" one. Just we noticed that the system was loaded much faster with the last one
We copied the prepared and proved image from old HDD to new HDD.
And at this moment we had seen the "Check security device" message.
So we were forced to do all HDD initialization procedure from the beginning for the 2nd HDD.

Regards

We did not use the Norton Ghost to create an image.
Instead we used several programms for this among which the WinImage is the best choice on my oppinion.
Just the WinImage does not ask excessive questions

Actually the incompatibility problem is the most difficult problem here.
Something of Windows hardware/software works wrong with antic HDD.
On the other hand the i386 hardware in Agie along with DOS does not understand what is created by Windows. And so on.

[tintin2005]

Hi!

Attached are the JPG of my Agie bios.

Hdd´s were automaticaly detected...

Looking to the yks manual i can see at least 2 errors. Boot sequence and "Land Zone".

Can you find another?

regards

tintin2005

[tintin2005]

Hi yks.
Now i am sticked at in checking security device...
Help!!!!!
After editing autoexec.bat to echo on ... everything goes well until c:loadsys... screen gets black and" checking security device" appears.
Any help will be just nice.
Thanks in advance.
Tintin2005

[yks]

Hi yks.
Now i am sticked at in checking security device...
Help!!!!!
After editing autoexec.bat to echo on ... everything goes well until c:loadsys... screen gets black and" checking security device" appears.
Any help will be just nice.
Thanks in advance.
Tintin2005

Hello, tintin2005!

I know about loadsys.com ( or loadsys.exe, i don't remember exactly).
And the picture you have posted is very similar to what we had seen.
Try to delete loadsys.com file from disc C. Before doing this you should copy and store the original loadsys.com file, for example on discette: copy c:\loadsys.com a:\loadsys.com
Then the system will likely ask you to insert the "Final Config" discette. There is once more loadsys.com on the "Final Config" discette.
Do not insert the "Final Config" discette unless you will be promted on the screen.
Otherwise your BIOS settings will be reset to default state ( with default HDD)

Regards

[tintin2005]

Hi yks.

Thanks for fast answer.
I will test and later i will feedback.
Regards

Tintin2005

[tintin2005]

Hi yks!

i feel very tired.... and not good results.
i renamed loadsys.com but system does not ask me for final config. neither for anything.
it does not go to message " checking security device", intead it maintain under score flashing but no hdd or fdd activity at all, it stays completely stucked.
i am without ideas...
Is there anybody with some more ideas?
i will be very pleased.

regards
tintin2005

[tintin2005]

Hi yks!

you mailbox is full. i can´t send any message.

regards

tintin2005

[yks]

Hi yks!
you mailbox is full...
tintin2005

Done

[tintin2005]

Hello !

Can you explain what these commands do exactly?

dir a: > nul

cd a:\ ????

copy a:\xxxxxxx.com c:\ > nul

my understandig problem is specially about >NUL

Thanks

tintin2005

[vladedragicevic]

Dear sirs,
are you repair your Agie.
I have similar maschine and similar problem.
If you have any posibility to help me ,please contact me.
Best regards,
Vlade
AGIE 270 HSS

[fatih50]

Hi guys,

we need also some help, about installation a new HDD.
Which type of HDD? How to formatting? Max sizes? Which system (DOS5.0 or CDOS2.0)? How to install AGİE... and more!
Step by step will be very helpfull.
Agiecut 250 (1994)
HDD description: AGIE, Agiematic CF, PEC-07 mit FW11.01 and JP ver 2.1, for CF 50-70, Id.Nr. 679774.0, 05/93


We trust to our members.

Thanks in advance.
Regards

[Aslan]

Mittlerweile habe ich es geschafft, die "alte" Festplatte wieder zu beleben. D,E und F konnte ich retten,
C wurde mir aus Konya von einer Agiecut 150 (auch aus 1993) als Kopie (nicht Image oder ISO) zur
Verfügung gestellt.
Habe PC-DOS 5.0 (IBM) installiert und die alten Daten auf die Partitionen kopiert.
Config.sys und Autoexec.bat angepasst. Hat erst nicht geklappt, doch nach Booten von A und Ablauf von
C:\Start001.bat kam die Steuerung mit AGIECUT.EXE
Muss also noch einiges anpassen...

Gruß

Adem

[Ironman.Anzus]

Mr Steph,
I´m having the same problem with my agiecut 120. The system tries to start and lands in the c:\cu91\mod folder. Would you please provide me the link to download the HDD image?
Thank you in advance.

[tintin2005]

Mittlerweile habe ich es geschafft, die "alte" Festplatte wieder zu beleben. D,E und F konnte ich retten,
C wurde mir aus Konya von einer Agiecut 150 (auch aus 1993) als Kopie (nicht Image oder ISO) zur
Verfügung gestellt.
Habe PC-DOS 5.0 (IBM) installiert und die alten Daten auf die Partitionen kopiert.
Config.sys und Autoexec.bat angepasst. Hat erst nicht geklappt, doch nach Booten von A und Ablauf von
C:\Start001.bat kam die Steuerung mit AGIECUT.EXE
Muss also noch einiges anpassen...

Gruß

Adem

Hello!
after translating with google translate what i get is that you can make it work starting from a:\, is it correct?

do you have all original diskettes working?

regards