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    Default Zero touch prob

    Hello. Does anyone have a photo of the wiring of a zero touch probe to a PRT-E1500 or a link to were i can find this info .Thank you for any support.

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    Default Re: Zero touch prob

    PRT-E1500 with be the model number for the VFD drive for the spindle motor

    various Chinese CNC machine builders make control boxes that look identical on the outside but the electronics inside can be very different

    some use an all in one BOB & stepper drivers on a single board

    others a BOB & individual stepper drivers


    Photos of the inside showing the printed circuit boards will help identify what you have

    some times they don't always install all the components to the BOB's PCB used in machines without a connector to plug in a touch probe


    example of a BOB with some parts not installed

    Zero touch prob-securedownload5-jpg


    photo taken of the net showing the inside of a CNC machines control box

    the PRT-E1500 VFD board is in the foreground

    Zero touch prob-cnc-box-prt-e1500-jpg

    John



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    Default Re: Zero touch prob

    Thank you John for your reply. I will Take some photos. and return back.



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    Default Re: Zero touch prob

    Hi John. Here are the photos. the 2 holes are where i was going to put a connection for the touch probe so the wires don't go straight through.


    James

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    Default Re: Zero touch prob

    Hi James

    you need to connect the probe to the red board in your first photo

    this is the USb motion controller you have

    Zero touch prob-mach3-20usb-20board-205-800-jpg


    looking closer the board has 4 inputs

    Zero touch prob-inputs-jpg

    assuming the board replicates a PC parallel printer port

    I guess IN1 to IN4 on the board will be pins 10 to 14 in mach 3 /4s pins and ports set up


    I expect the terminal DCM is going to be the common terminal for the 4 inputs

    it looks like the 4 opto-isolators LEDs are connected to +24V via 4 resistors to limit the LED current

    when an input terminal ( IN1 to IN4 ) is grounded to the terminal DCM


    John


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    possible input wiring

    Zero touch prob-4-axis-interface-driver-motion-controller-update

    Last edited by john-100; 10-29-2019 at 07:23 AM. Reason: add PS


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    Default Re: Zero touch prob

    Thank you John for taking the time out of your life to help me it is much appreciated and honorable. Just a recap if i put the probe wire into IN2 and the ground into DCM then im good to go. In the first photo if you look at the top on 5v you can see 4 wires that are twisted together,one of them was just barly holding so in the next photo all fixed gloud i found that.

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    Default Re: Zero touch prob

    Hi John. Photo of installed wires hope its all the right way. haven't turn the power on as yet waiting for your reply. the red colour is probe and the the green is ground. James

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    Default Re: Zero touch prob

    Hi James

    that looks correct


    do you have a multimeter ?

    can you confirm one of the black wires connected to terminal DCM goes to the 24V power supplies negative output terminal

    and a red wire connected to the 24V terminal goes to the 24V power supplies positive output




    which touch probe do you have ?

    is the probe isolated from the machine

    or does it connect the machines body / spindle to the motion controller connection DCM terminal (the green wire ) ?




    John



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    Hi John. Here is the photo of the prob. I have a friend who is a tv repair man, he has no knowledge of cnc probes but he check it for me and it was showing 22.8 v. This is not my area of knowledge and have never used a multimeter but this looks like its going to work I will now set it up in mach3. I will give you feed back and hopfuly a vidio as well. Thank you very much John will return tommrow. James.

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    Hi John. I open up mach3 and tested the prob this is whats happening. In photo 1 shows when the tool touches probe. The second pic is settings. 3rd pic needs a script g-code, can you recomend any that is in metric. Thank you.... James

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    Default Re: Zero touch prob

    Hi James

    The probe wiring in post 9 looks correct with the isolated touch plate connected to the boards input


    Looking at the second photo in post 10 the probe is assigned to pin 15

    As the board only has 4 inputs I expect you need to assign the probe to one of the other 4 possible input pins - pins 10 to 13


    I have not used scripts with mach 3 so I can't answer your last question


    John



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    Hi John. Can't seem to stop it activating the e-stop. when i touch the two togeather it should light up the digitize as in the photo and not the others. I played around with ports and pin settings with no success. Not sure what to do now. Ill have to do more reserch and hopfuly find a answer to this. I would like to thank you for your time and help John. Im a little bit further today then i was a few days ago and for that i thank. James

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    Default Re: Zero touch prob

    Hi John. I found a photo online showing the probe wiring. Hope it can help others. James

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