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    Default G540 Output Only 5V

    I'm having trouble getting 10V PWM output from G540, Pin 7 (VFD Ground) and Pin 8 (VFD Output). The maximum voltage G540 is outputting is around 5V.

    Below are my settings:
    VFD = Huayang 2.2kW
    Spindle = 2.2kW water cooled, 24,000 rpm.

    I'm feeding 10V to G540 from Huayang VFD (also measured 10V). I also have the VFD analog input set to 10V.

    Mach 3 RMP Reading VFD RMP Reading Voltage Across P7/P8
    5,000 10,500 1.9
    7,000 11,750 2.6
    12,500 15,000 4.6
    24,000 16,300 5.6

    How do I get G540 to output 10V? How do I get the VFD and Mach 3 rpm to line up?

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    Default Re: G540 Output Only 5V

    What are your pulley speeds?

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    Default Re: G540 Output Only 5V

    I have the pulley speed set at min 0 rpm and maximum 24,000 rpm to be in line with the spindle rpm.



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    Default Re: G540 Output Only 5V

    Is the output on G540 P7/P8 digital PWM? If yes, do I need a PWM to analog converter to convert the digital voltage to analog before sending it to the VFD?

    My initial though that G540 output would be analog 0-10V, but is this incorrect?



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    Default Re: G540 Output Only 5V

    No, it should be converting the PWM signal into a 0-10V output.
    But I don't have an answer for what you are seeing.

    Is the 10V from the Huanyang constant, even when running?

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    Default Re: G540 Output Only 5V

    The voltage seems to be constant when measured on a multimeter, but I read an old thread on Mach3 website which said that using on oscilloscope, the 10V from the VFD was noisy. "The +10v reference voltage from the VFD turned out to be the culprit, a cap across the VFD's ground and output cleaned it up nicely."

    I don't have an oscilloscope so not sure how to check this. I'm looking around the house for an old power converter to try and switch out the power supply.



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    Default Re: G540 Output Only 5V

    I couldn't find a 10V DC supply try out, but I found a 50V 22microF capacitor. Connected it across VFD Out and VI and it seems to have done the trick.

    On the low to mid range of rpm, the rpm reading in Mach 3 doesn't seem to correlate with the VFD display. Anyone have a theory as to why that it? Am I missing any setting on the VFD or Mach 3?

    Below is what I measured also see graph:

    VFD Reading (rpm) Mach 3 Reading (rpm) Voltage (P7/P8)
    10610 5000 2.0
    14020 10000 4.1
    17464 15000 6.1
    20200 19000 7.7
    22286 22000 8.9
    23590 24000 9.7


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    Default Re: G540 Output Only 5V

    If the VFD is seeing 2V, it should not be running at 10,600 rpm. That would be a VFD issue.

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    Default Re: G540 Output Only 5V

    Having same problem, was that an Electrolytic cap? which lead is Positive? Thanks



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