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    Nice job.

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    OK, version 11. Witch cheaper wood.

    I did a good deal of damage during final assembly. Pushed a few inlays in. Including the back. The final version will not have this issue as the inlays will bottom out. But everything I cared about was a success.
    First is the major design change, the valley in between the YY's. This allows all "four sides" of the YY to press against the base. Instead of the middle pressing against each other.
    This should allow for the YY's to be beveled. In this case I used a bull nose which gave me a sort'a bevel at the top. A bevel would not work if they were touching.
    Also allowed me to round the tails. No more infinity issues and chipping.

    The result is very little to no gaps showing. Although there is some of what I call the bull nose effect. That odd waviness you can see in the oak eye. I'm sure I can solve that out.
    (edit. Just noticed that eye should be maple. ID10T)

    Saturn 2 4x4 - Nema 23-1-jpg

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    Since I blocked the top I could not place the weights in the pocket before gluing the YYs. So I had to go through the bottom. This made the piece thicker and gave me an opportunity (forced me) to place a plaque on the back.
    Worked out better in the end I think.

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    I used Danish oil on this as a test. Because of the inlay damage I can't really tell if the grain swelled. It did give a strange laser etch effect on the back though. More to do with maple than anything I would guess.


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    I like your work!!



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    Hi Jack - Re grain raising. Knocking down the grain is traditionally done by wetting the surface, letting the grain stand up then sanding it down. Redo until the grain doesn't stand up anymore. Thats slow. I do it by using white PVA glue as a sealer/sander. I dilute it 1:1 with water or a bit more and apply a coat like shellac. It's just a wash not a coat. It will soak in, dry fast and you can do another coat if dry to the hand. The grain will stand up as usual but it will be glued together so the paper will cut the nibs off. Sand again and usually you won't feel the nibs anymore. You can continue using the diluted PVA and in about 6-10 coats you will get a very nice matt finish that is waterproof and UV resistant. Coating is fast as it dries in under an hour so you can get it done in a day if you like. Once the coat is "level" or choked, I use scotchbrite to knock the coat nibs off. If you use fine paper you can get a very very smooth finish to the hand very quickly. If you want gloss use any gloss finish over the top. PVA is cheap and I've had signs out in the weather for over 1.5 years now with no hint of change. I rag it on vs brush as brush will apply too much. I'm about to experiment with spraying it as well. Other gloss and matt polys etc would have started to fail by now in the Oz sun... Cheers Peter



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    Default Re: Saturn 2 4x4 - Nema 23

    Thanks Peter. That is some great information. Makes sense.
    I'll use that technique on the next test part.

    Jack.

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    I like your work!!
    Thanks Eric. Hopefully I can make some money at it soon enough.

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    PLJack - I have just joined the forum today. I just wanted to say that your YouTube site has been extremely useful to me.
    it has helped formulate the direction and build of my machine. I have recieved the Saturn 2 from fineline automation and although I have a few issues, I am overall very pleased with the qualityof the product.

    thanks

    Paul



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    Quote Originally Posted by pmorton View Post
    PLJack - I have just joined the forum today. I just wanted to say that your YouTube site has been extremely useful to me.
    it has helped formulate the direction and build of my machine. I have recieved the Saturn 2 from fineline automation and although I have a few issues, I am overall very pleased with the qualityof the product.

    thanks

    Paul
    Welcome aboard. Glad to see a new user, and that Nate has improved his customer service. My machine has had no issues but a couple of others on here did and you will soon hear from one of them I am sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pmorton View Post
    PLJack - I have just joined the forum today. I just wanted to say that your YouTube site has been extremely useful to me.
    it has helped formulate the direction and build of my machine. I have recieved the Saturn 2 from fineline automation and although I have a few issues, I am overall very pleased with the qualityof the product.

    thanks

    Paul

    Paul,

    Why don't you start your own build thread?

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    You should be about done with yours now Gary?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wmgeorge View Post
    You should be about done with yours now Gary?
    Good morning, Bill,

    Just about. I'm working on finishing up the spoilboard. It's the same basic design I used on my first machine, but this time around, it's not going as smoothly. I am making the spoilboard as large as my machine will permit, which maybe turned out to be a mistake. Pushing the envelope on size has introduced an added layer of complication that, on reflection, would have been better avoided. Lesson learned, but I still have to deal with it.

    When I first started the setup, I trammed the spindle off of the cross braces. I surfaced the Baltic Birch base layer, and noticed some small ridges, which told me my tram was off a few thousands. That was expected. I trammed it again yesterday and on. Today, I'm installing the t-tracks and 1/2" MDF spacers that go in-between them. Since I'm gluing the MDF to the base layer, it's a time-consuming process. After that, I'll be gluing on the 3/4" MDF top layer, which overlaps the edges of the t-track. Another time-consuming task. I have to go out for glue. It takes a lot of glue; I don't have enough on hand in the shop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pmorton View Post
    PLJack - I have just joined the forum today. I just wanted to say that your YouTube site has been extremely useful to me.
    it has helped formulate the direction and build of my machine. I have recieved the Saturn 2 from fineline automation and although I have a few issues, I am overall very pleased with the qualityof the product.
    thanks
    Paul
    That's awesome to hear Paul. Makes all those hours of editing I did worth it. Thanks for that. I've been thinking lately that I should start updating Youtube again.
    Yes guys, I still drop in from time to time. Mostly post my CNC stuff on instagram now a days.
    Here is a couple latest:
    https://www.instagram.com/p/B0Lnik-Axx8/
    https://www.instagram.com/p/B1C2bnHA5_A/


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    Quote Originally Posted by PLJack View Post
    That's awesome to hear Paul. Makes all those hours of editing I did worth it. Thanks for that. I've been thinking lately that I should start updating Youtube again.
    Yes guys, I still drop in from time to time. Mostly post my CNC stuff on instagram now a days.
    Here is a couple latest:
    https://www.instagram.com/p/B0Lnik-Axx8/
    https://www.instagram.com/p/B1C2bnHA5_A/


    Jack
    Hey Jack I have a question, what kind of material did you use for the photo you routed? Did you just paint it to get the two tone or is it something that is made that way. Also did you use Vectric for the cam? I just got the V10 update that has the photo carve tool paths nice upgrade and I've been working on a project using it. The one you have on IG looks good.

    Dan



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