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    Default Limited Memory of 500 mb for programs.

    Hello all,

    I have a 5axis machine with fanuc 18imb control.

    My problem is I cannot load nc program larger than 500 mb, error is NO SPACE IN MEMORY.
    It is very annoying because most of my programs are 800 mb to 1gb, and then I have to split the code to smaller parts, and loading the program one after other.
    Is ANY way I can solve this?

    Thanks in advance!

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    Default Re: Limited Memory of 500 mb for programs.

    Hey platonas1,

    We purchased at FANUC Benelux the Memory Card Program Tool for large programs, up to 2Gb, it costs only €25,- !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    It's a small, 0.6Mb exe.file that creates BIN-files which or accessible from memory to PCMCIA.
    It's NOT dripfeeding, you can see the nc-code from MEMORY, we did'nt run the program yet but give it a little try.
    I think you can also make changes to the nc-code on the CARD-side but that's something we didn't try yet.
    The nc-code was visible from the MEMORY-side, it handles the easiest way by the Manual Guide menu to access the program.

    Fanuc Memory Card Progam Edit Tool
    Version: 5.00
    Fanuc A08B-9010-J700/ZZ11

    There's also a M198 option, stores the large data on the CARD and run it from MEMORY-side.
    Don't put an extention behind the program number, just O1200 but not O1200.nc or O1200.txt

    Regards,
    Heavy_Metal.

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    Default Re: Limited Memory of 500 mb for programs.

    I just heard about this today HeavyMetal!!. Do yo use a regular CF card?



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    Default Re: Limited Memory of 500 mb for programs.

    I don’t think it works on 18iMB. I think this is supported from 30iA generation.


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    Default Re: Limited Memory of 500 mb for programs.

    Hey Robowi,

    Program Tool is developed since 2003, so for a 18i-MB it should work I think, see attachment for the FANUC history.
    According the HELP-pdf it's a description from the B-64484EN/06 manual, 30i-31i-32i lathe and machine center.
    Maybe you are correct and it don't run on a 18i-MB.
    It needs CF/PCMCIA, on our 0i-MF with CF and USB it only works on CF-CARD.
    The M198 runs also from CF-CARD, not USB.
    If you want I can make a BIN-file from a nc-code that you can save on a CF-CARD and try to run it.

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    Default Re: Limited Memory of 500 mb for programs.

    This is a picture from my cnc
    Does this Slot helps to increase the program memory?
    If yes what type of card I can buy, and what settings I should have please?





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    Default Re: Limited Memory of 500 mb for programs.

    Hey Platonas,

    No that's not the correct slot you need.
    It's the PCMCIA card-slot at the front of the machine, you need a PCMCIA-CF Card adapter.
    Fanuc's internal memory is max. 8Mb, on cards to 2Gb and data-server up to 4Gb.
    Todays standard memory size is 250kb or 500kb, extra memory is an option up to 8Mb.

    If you use the PCMCIA Card-slot set Channel 4.

    If you try the M198 check parameters;
    20 = 4 (channel)
    138 #7 = 1
    3404 #2 = 1
    6030 = 0
    These are for the Oi-MF, maybe they are standard for all Fanuc controls ?!?!

    Regards,
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    Default Re: Limited Memory of 500 mb for programs.

    Hi and thanks for the info, but there is no slot in
    front of the machine, just the pc which i use to transfer the program files from my pc.

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    Default Re: Limited Memory of 500 mb for programs.

    Hey,

    You say that your control is a FANUC 18i-MB series.
    As for as I know all FANUC controls with Oi-C and 18i-B and later series has the PCMCIA card slot.
    What is the brand and model of your machine an how do you handle large programs.
    Do you use the Tape/dripfeed by RS232 ??

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    Please see attached pdf. Is the data sheet of our machine.
    There is no pcmcia slot on the machine. The computer connected to cnc with ethernet cable and also rs232.

    I use my computer to program NC code with cam program and I transfer the program using USB to the PC in the cnc. I transfer the program to prgprt folder of the PC and then I load it o1231 + read exec. My limit is 512 kb.

    For large programs I manually split the code. To 500 kb of each.



    Quote Originally Posted by Heavy_Metal View Post
    Hey,

    You say that your control is a FANUC 18i-MB series.
    As for as I know all FANUC controls with Oi-C and 18i-B and later series has the PCMCIA card slot.
    What is the brand and model of your machine an how do you handle large programs.
    Do you use the Tape/dripfeed by RS232 ??

    Regard,
    Heavy_Metal.


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    Default Re: Limited Memory of 500 mb for programs.

    drip feed via software at one point in time existed, be it lan or rs232 but all drip feeding has some serious changes in operation of the machine and execution of the code so be more aware of that.



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    Cms always uses this type of setup. A standalone nc connected with a PC. Max part program on an 18iMB is 1024kb. I think in your situation it is best to get the dataserver option.



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    Default Re: Limited Memory of 500 mb for programs.

    OK, I give up, never heard of this CMS brand and its operators (PC) control panel.
    He has to contact CMS if its possible to handle his problem.

    Regards,
    Heavy_Metal.



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    Default Re: Limited Memory of 500 mb for programs.

    Lots of MTB use this type of setup. Amada uses fanuc panel i pc with standalone fanuc nc, Mori Seiki uses there mapps pc with standalone fanuc nc. He should indeed contact his local CMS dealer or ask local Fanuc for the options that are available on his machine.


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    Default Re: Limited Memory of 500 mb for programs.

    Hey Robowi,

    I know that Machine Tool Builders use different controls by Fanuc but thats not the problem.
    When someone starts a new thread on this forum he has to start with as many information thats relevant to find a solution.
    Information about brand, model/type, controller, year, etc, maybe some pictures from the contoller panel or the machine itself.
    Only FANUC 18i-MB is not enough as you see.

    Regards,
    Heavy_Metal.



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    Default Re: Limited Memory of 500 mb for programs.

    Afik, all iA and iB series controls have the pcmcia slot on the lcd panel and/or on the stand-alone control.
    Early 18-iA controls were limited to 512k of USABLE part program memory; newer software can increase that to 2Mbytes. There is an option that allows a program to be stored in memory > 2Mbytes using spare DRAM; this will be lost if power is turned off.
    On iA controls ethernet was an option; on iB controls ethernet was standard but high speed ethernet was an option.



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    Default Re: Limited Memory of 500 mb for programs.

    So fellas,

    Any solution to the problem? I've contact cms, waiting for reply,
    I let you know..



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