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    Default Re: Setting up first axis step/dir on KFLOP/KANALOG - No 'C'-experience

    The machine have two similar dc servo When i checked by Pot both act the same
    I checked the voltages



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    Default Re: Setting up first axis step/dir on KFLOP/KANALOG - No 'C'-experience

    Hi Andualem,

    Driver was enabled green led ON when I tried by Pot
    Try again. If it doesn't work the Drive must be bad.

    On the driver +DT & -DT encoder was connected originally
    Those are Tachometer inputs not encoder inputs. You aren't answering my questions.

    Omron E6B2-cwzix
    Rotary encoder ( incremental)
    Resolution 1000 p/r
    Search for specifications and manual.

    Regards
    TK http://dynomotion.com


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    Hi Tom


    Those are Tachometer inputs not encoder inputs. You aren't answering my question
    About Analog tachometer it count revolutions per minute igital encoder have out out put binary code for exact position
    Search for specifications and manual.[/QUOTE]
    I search on that

    Thanks Tom

    Attached Files Attached Files


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    Hi Tom

    Some one imported this machine from Europe sell to the owner as brand new

    Technician before me made many problem when they tray to fix ( they didn't know the problem it becomes worst)

    You know it's difficult to get kflop and kanalog here
    That's why I have to figure out everything before I plug
    Depending on driver pdf when I connect pin6 and pin8 ( the motor moves ) predisposition

    But when I use POT no movement ( when I did this I disconnected 6 & 8)
    I can't get any other information about the driver it is old

    I need serious support


    Please Tom
    I need support
    just keep it



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    Default Re: Setting up first axis step/dir on KFLOP/KANALOG - No 'C'-experience

    I think 6 and 8 must be connected for the Drive to be enabled and the POT to cause motor motion.

    Regards
    TK http://dynomotion.com


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    Thanks Tom
    I will go tomorrow night it is above 200km far
    To try again

    I prepared kflop and kanalog to replace the old controller
    I can send to you kflop & kanalog connection photo tomorrow morning ( here now the time is middle night)

    Thanks
    You know Tom It's good opportunity for me to learn in the other hand for the company It's a necessary they invest what they have on that
    The machine cost here is very expensive

    If you have some advice please tell me



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    Default Re: Setting up first axis step/dir on KFLOP/KANALOG - No 'C'-experience

    Hi Tom

    On that pdf ( attached ) it says encoder,
    Did you see?



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    Default Re: Setting up first axis step/dir on KFLOP/KANALOG - No 'C'-experience

    Hi Tom

    Thanks your right
    I figure out the wiring starting from your information
    I get tachometer connection inside servo motor
    So I connect with driver +/- DT
    The incoder was wired wrong and cutted inside the machine
    I start making wiring between encoder and kanalog
    The encoder connection wire is when I refer pdf it have 3 ( A, B & Z ) reverse phase and 3 not reverse out put and 0V , 5V and Gnd
    So I think kanalog haven't 5V out so I think I have to use external power supply
    And from the 3 phase z is the full square signal
    A and B inputs



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    Hi Tom

    Thanks your right
    I figure out the wiring starting from your information
    I get tachometer connection inside servo motor
    So I connect with driver +/- DT
    The incoder was wired wrong and cutted inside the machine
    I start making wiring between encoder and kanalog
    The encoder connection wire is when I refer pdf it have 3 ( A, B & Z ) reverse phase and 3 not reverse out put and 0V , 5V and Gnd
    So I think kanalog haven't 5V out so I think I have to use external power supply
    And from the 3 phase z is the full square signal
    Kanalog JP1 and JP2 encoder inputs are A and B So if I use only A & B, is that okay ?

    I can attach the connection schematic to get suggestions
    As a beginner I have to get some guidance

    Thank you

    Last edited by Andualem; 05-07-2022 at 03:13 PM.


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    Hi Tom

    This is what I try to make the wiring
    I have to edit limit switches connection
    I read on dynamotion book connection in parallel each axis

    And I need some initial points how I start make tread



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    Quote Originally Posted by Andualem View Post
    Hi Tom

    This is what I try to make the wiring
    I have to edit limit switches connection
    I can't attach xps file I will convert to pdf to send
    I take picture from the PC

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andualem View Post
    I can't attach xps file I will convert to pdf to send
    I take picture from the PC
    RA (reverse Phase A output)
    NRA Non Reverse Output Phase A

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    Default Re: Setting up first axis step/dir on KFLOP/KANALOG - No 'C'-experience

    Is that possible to make new thread without connecting motor and driver



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    Default Re: Setting up first axis step/dir on KFLOP/KANALOG - No 'C'-experience

    Hi Andualem,

    Sorry I don't understand most of that.

    Kanalog JP1 and JP2 encoder inputs are A and B So if I use only A & B, is that okay ?
    Yes if you don't need the Z index pulse it doesn't need to be connected.

    Regards
    TK http://dynomotion.com


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    Default Re: Setting up first axis step/dir on KFLOP/KANALOG - No 'C'-experience

    Hi Tom

    First I thank you
    I make the connection I use external 5 V for the encoder

    I finished the wiring for two axis
    Now I start working on software
    I install Kmotion 4.33
    I start reading about c programming
    I use kanalog
    To make the thread
    What are the steps?

    I want to show you my schematic but I can't attach here



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    I want to make with understanding step by step

    i try to write init.c but I'm not sure before this i suspect i have to do other things

    i need to know steps from the first i will study after that

    i use Kenalog JP1 encoder input
    JP11 out put for the +REF and -REF
    JP15 for Limit switch



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    Default Re: Setting up first axis step/dir on KFLOP/KANALOG - No 'C'-experience

    I make the connection I use external 5 V for the encoder
    You might have used the +5V from Kanalog.

    I install Kmotion 4.33
    Please use the later Test Version 4.35f

    To make the thread
    What are the steps?
    Not clear what you mean. First get the axis to work.

    I want to show you my schematic but I can't attach here
    Why not?

    Please read the steps here.

    Regards
    TK http://dynomotion.com


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    Default Re: Setting up first axis step/dir on KFLOP/KANALOG - No 'C'-experience

    You might have used the +5V from Kanalog

    I connect 5V and 12V only on kflop
    Kanalog JP 8 when I measure 5V out I can't get ( when I check the voltage I didn't load any program in Kmotion )

    Is their any input supply voltage on Kanalog?


    OK thanks I can change with 4.35

    Not clear what you mean. First get the axis to work.

    I was confused, after I make the wiring I load init.c and
    Configuration I tray to move . It was not clear for me

    I get some hints from your attach
    I didn't load KanaloginitialPID.mot, I have to do that


    Why not?

    When I attached before their was attach option in this page now their is no option

    Regards



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    Default Re: Setting up first axis step/dir on KFLOP/KANALOG - No 'C'-experience

    Hi Tom

    I can't attach here, what shall I do ?



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    Default Re: Setting up first axis step/dir on KFLOP/KANALOG - No 'C'-experience

    zip it

    Regards
    TK http://dynomotion.com


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