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    Quote Originally Posted by TomKerekes View Post
    Hi Gunmachinist,

    Its not clear you understand you need Motor Drives (Amplifiers) to drive your motors. Do you?

    The first step should be to not use KFLOP/Kanalog at all and test your Amplifiers as described here.

    That sounds mostly wrong. Please don't power up the system until you understand what you are doing or you will likely damage another set of boards.
    Ok, I see im missing a few items. Wasn't aware I needed an amplifier to run the servos. It would probably help if someone started a thread with pictures of varrious setups.

    When it comes to electrical work, I like to draw with crayons and drool on myself.

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    Default Re: is the Dynomotion controll as confusing as it seems?

    Earlier I asked if you have Motor Drives and Power Supply and you replied "yes". But it seems we miss communicated.

    There are lots of build Threads such as this. So the first step will be for you to figure out if you have Amplifiers or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomKerekes View Post
    Earlier I asked if you have Motor Drives and Power Supply and you replied "yes". But it seems we miss communicated.

    There are lots of build Threads such as this. So the first step will be for you to figure out if you have Amplifiers or not.

    Thanks for all the help, I'm just highly electricaly dumb.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunmachinist View Post
    Ok, I see im missing a few items. Wasn't aware I needed an amplifier to run the servos. It would probably help if someone started a thread with pictures of varrious setups.

    When it comes to electrical work, I like to draw with crayons and drool on myself.

    Please post a few pictures of your control panel. Maybe we can help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Dawson View Post
    Please post a few pictures of your control panel. Maybe we can help.
    Will do, just as soon as I get some servo amplifiers.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunmachinist View Post
    Will do, just as soon as I get some servo amplifiers.
    What happened to the original drives (servo amplifiers)?

    Last edited by Jim Dawson; 07-02-2020 at 12:05 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Dawson View Post
    What happened to the original drives (servo amplifiers)?
    I assume your talking about the original Anilam system drives. I couldn't get them to work so I scrapped the hole system and started over, I was just a little confused as to what all goes into creating a new system. Oh, well best way to learn is by doing, and doing again..and again.



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    Default Re: is the Dynomotion controll as confusing as it seems?

    Have you decided on what drives you drives you are going to get?

    Jim Dawson
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Dawson View Post
    Have you decided on what drives you drives you are going to get?

    I found Advanced Motion Controls 12A8K on ebay for cheap, so Im going to give it a shot.



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    Default Re: is the Dynomotion controll as confusing as it seems?

    Heres a picture of my control cabinet and the servo amp im using. The servos I have are SSI PT402 servos, but I am unable to find any information on them. I have identified the power, neutral, and ground; but there is a white and black I cant ID.



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    Default Re: is the Dynomotion controll as confusing as it seems?

    Heres the pic, cabinet pic is actually upside down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunmachinist View Post
    Heres a picture of my control cabinet and the servo amp im using. The servos I have are SSI PT402 servos, but I am unable to find any information on them. I have identified the power, neutral, and ground; but there is a white and black I cant ID.

    Could the black & white be the tach wires?

    Jim Dawson
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    Default Re: is the Dynomotion controll as confusing as it seems?

    I think so, that or reference wires. I don't suppose It would damage the drive if I tested by wiring it and testing.



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    Default Re: is the Dynomotion controll as confusing as it seems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunmachinist View Post
    Heres a picture of my control cabinet and the servo amp im using. The servos I have are SSI PT402 servos, but I am unable to find any information on them. I have identified the power, neutral, and ground; but there is a white and black I cant ID.
    According to an ebay post I found for those servo motors, it claims they are the same as "402CNSP0S72"

    This might be the data sheet http://www.telusplanet.net/public/sh...00R400F560.pdf



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    Default Re: is the Dynomotion controll as confusing as it seems?

    This data sheet might be helpful to you http://servosystems.com/pdf/amc/25a8.pdf

    Jim Dawson
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    Default Re: is the Dynomotion controll as confusing as it seems?

    cwatson1982

    Thanks, I've been all over the net and couldn't find anything.



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    Default Re: is the Dynomotion controll as confusing as it seems?

    Thanks Jim.



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    Default Re: is the Dynomotion controll as confusing as it seems?

    Assuming:

    The servos I have are SSI PT402
    and this:

    According to an ebay post I found for those servo motors, it claims they are the same as "402CNSP0S72"
    and this, the motor specs mght be :

    C402-3 ??

    which is specified here:

    is the Dynomotion controll as confusing as it seems?-c402-3-motor-png

    The 80V amplifier would then max out the RPM somewhere under:

    80V / Kv = 80V /24.37 x 1000 = 3283 RPM

    Looks like the current should be limited to 11 Amps.

    HTH

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    Default Re: is the Dynomotion controll as confusing as it seems?

    I'm not sure these are the same that came with the boss. I believe the machine I have was retrofitted around 1992 +/-. Here is a pic of the servos and machine so you get an idea of what im working with.

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    Default Re: is the Dynomotion controll as confusing as it seems?

    Quote Originally Posted by TomKerekes View Post
    Assuming:



    and this:



    and this, the motor specs mght be :

    C402-3 ??

    which is specified here:

    is the Dynomotion controll as confusing as it seems?-c402-3-motor-png

    The 80V amplifier would then max out the RPM somewhere under:

    80V / Kv = 80V /24.37 x 1000 = 3283 RPM

    Looks like the current should be limited to 11 Amps.

    HTH
    Ok, According to the specs of the control I'm using I should be supplying 80V. The Advanced Motion Controls 12A8K max amp at 12A should be perfect considering the mill max RPM only goes up to 4000. So, It looks like I'm headed in the right direction? Is their a way to step down 110v to 80v easier than adding a new power supply or would it be better to just get another power supply.

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