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    looking for recommendations to upgrade my Makita router to a spindle. I seen older posts that there are some VFDs which are harder to program? Main reason for a change is how loud my router is at idle. looking for an air cooled unit that would work with 120V.

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    I've got the Makita trim router as my spindle. It is loud and the cooling air blown out of the bottom sends wood dust everywhere. Still...I like it. I had a deflector at the bottom that discharges air off the side. I need to put that back on. I also need to design a dust shoe too. I have hearing protection on while the machine is working, so the noise isn't so bad.

    The issue in my shop is I don't have 220v available and the 115v options for spindles aren't so good.


    Quote Originally Posted by Phil_Par View Post
    looking for recommendation to upgrade my Makita router to a spindle. I seen older post that there are some VFDs which are harder to program? Main reason for a change is how loud my router is at idle. looking for an air cooled unit.




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    Default Re: Spindle Recommendation

    People say that the Hitachi M12VC is one of the quieter routers. But, it is still a brushed router and can't compare to a "real" brushless spindle. There are 1.5/1.75 kW spindles with VFD's that run on 120 volts.



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    Not to hijack the tread, but I need some education on 110v single phase VFD's and which spindle I can get for them...

    Quote Originally Posted by davida1234 View Post
    People say that the Hitachi M12VC is one of the quieter routers. But, it is still a brushed router and can't compare to a "real" brushless spindle. There are 1.5/1.75 kW spindles with VFD's that run on 120 volts.




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    Quote Originally Posted by fretman_2 View Post
    Not to hijack the tread, but I need some education on 110v single phase VFD's and which spindle I can get for them...
    There are a bunch of them on eBay. No clue if they are good or not but they are there. And if you are thinking using a router and SuperPid for speed control, it is very close in price.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/CNC-2-2KW-110V-WATER-COOLED-ER20-SPINDLE-MOTOR-2-2KW-INVERTER-80MM-CLAMP-PUMP/142999335811?hash=item214b6cb383:g:9a0AAOSwmNlb3M2U:rk:17f:0

    Actually I just realized that the link is for a 2.2kW @ 110 volts spindle even! I am not sure I would go for 2.2kW at 110 volts though. That's like 20 + amps.



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    Default Re: Spindle Recommendation

    If the spindle is idle shut it off. There is no noise from a spindle that isn’t running.

    As for routers they are all noisy.

    As for spindles most of the 120VAC ones I know about are low power and Are wanting in some way or another. Given that you can find VFDs that will run small 220VAC motors on 120 VAc. A better approach might be a step up transformer. Better yet put in a 220 volt line in the shop.



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    Quote Originally Posted by davida1234 View Post
    People say that the Hitachi M12VC is one of the quieter routers. But, it is still a brushed router and can't compare to a "real" brushless spindle. There are 1.5/1.75 kW spindles with VFD's that run on 120 volts.
    I replaced my Makita RT0701c with a Hitachi M12VC and it is louder than the Makita. The Makita is the quietest router I've ever worked with. Even if the M12VC is louder, once I start cutting, the cutter is way louder than the router.



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    Default Re: Spindle Recommendation

    You can find a lot of threads from people having issues with 2.2KW 120V spindles and VFD's.

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    Default Re: Spindle Recommendation

    I was thinking 1.5kw on a 120V(15A) circuit. I will do a little more digging on issues most users have encountered.



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    Default Re: Spindle Recommendation

    I'll stick with my RT0701c for now and just put an air deflector at the bottom.


    Quote Originally Posted by Biggs427 View Post
    I replaced my Makita RT0701c with a Hitachi M12VC and it is louder than the Makita. The Makita is the quietest router I've ever worked with. Even if the M12VC is louder, once I start cutting, the cutter is way louder than the router.




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    Quote Originally Posted by fretman_2 View Post
    Not to hijack the tread, but I need some education on 110v single phase VFD's and which spindle I can get for them...
    You only want to buy a system like this if the VFD Drive has listed 110v / 120v Input which is what your supply is and 220v output they have a doubler built in the VFD Drive, then you can run up to a 1.5Kw 220v spindle, this is the only route to take

    Mactec54


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    Quote Originally Posted by davida1234 View Post
    There are a bunch of them on eBay. No clue if they are good or not but they are there. And if you are thinking using a router and SuperPid for speed control, it is very close in price.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/CNC-2-2KW-110V-WATER-COOLED-ER20-SPINDLE-MOTOR-2-2KW-INVERTER-80MM-CLAMP-PUMP/142999335811?hash=item214b6cb383:g:9a0AAOSwmNlb3M2U:rk:17f:0

    Actually I just realized that the link is for a 2.2kW @ 110 volts spindle even! I am not sure I would go for 2.2kW at 110 volts though. That's like 20 + amps.
    Yes they are junk and do not work well nobody should buy a 110V 3ph spindle of any size range, these are just made for the newbies that buy them because they don't know any better

    Mactec54


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