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    Default Masso CNC Control Issues

    Where do I start with this one?.. I built a 60x60 router and bought a 5 Axis Masso to control it.
    I have Y and B axis slaved (had) and I wanted 1 axis for rotary milling.
    Masso software does not allow for USB hubs of any sort so USB extenders wont work which means the Masso needs to be in close proximity to the machine (not good).
    I downloaded the latest Alpha release software and the USB issue was resolved - many new problems occurred.

    When I home my machine, Z is first, then X and Y-B slaved.
    Z will home then X then Y will move for 2-3 seconds (without B!!) then B will move. - if I press the E-Stop during the Y only movement then the B moves for a second (after E-Stop through the Masso).
    Hind Technologies says that the Y-B axis moving independently is a feature to square up a gantry on more flexible machines.
    -At no time should a slaved axis EVER move intentionally independently. (if so, have a check box to disable that feature).
    My machine is ballscrew driven and made of heavy, rigid extrusion that is bolted together - not a flexible design.
    This problem was solved by wiring both the B and Y servo controllers in parallel directly to the Masso Y axis port.
    Guess I didn't need to pay extra for the 5 Axis after all!...

    Next issue was testing my machine with Masso's built in Conversational Cam. I tried both circle and rectangle G code and both failed to run completely.
    There are to many other problems with the Masso for me to recommend it to anyone.

    I've built half a dozen CNC's and I tend to sell them off to small businesses to build something else. I was hoping that the Masso was an easy control solution to package with my machines.
    I was wrong.

    Looks like UCCNC is going to be my goto..

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    Default Re: Masso CNC Control Issues

    Similar story that many other Masso user's have told.

    Gerry

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    Default Re: Masso CNC Control Issues

    I feel for your frustration, the market is rip for a low cost, innovative solution but sadly that has yet to materialize.

    As for slaved axis it is fairly common in motion control to have a slaved axis move independently switching slaved mode on and off as needed. Granted for the CNC use you have here it doesn't make sense but the feature is worthwhile in a CNC for those square up routines. It does sound like there are still way too many implementation issues with MASSO. I do hope that they can get things stabilized as the idea behind MASSO is pretty good.



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    Default Re: Masso CNC Control Issues

    @Barbourj22 have you given up on the Masso or were you able to work through some of the issues?

    Did the update that just came out address any of your concerns?

    I have already bought one, but my router won’t be ready to run for a while, so just wanting to prepare myself for what is around the corner. I don’t want to buy something else until I’ve tried it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BrokenHorn View Post
    @Barbourj22 have you given up on the Masso or were you able to work through some of the issues?

    Did the update that just came out address any of your concerns?

    I have already bought one, but my router won’t be ready to run for a while, so just wanting to prepare myself for what is around the corner. I don’t want to buy something else until I’ve tried it.


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    Take a serious look at Acorn by Centroid!



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    Do you want to run tandem/parallel motors?
    If so, good luck.

    I gave up on it. A pc with software and a dedicated CNC controller is best.
    I went with the uc300eth and breakout board c62.
    With Mach 3.
    Always buy motors and controller together so they can be tested for function within a reasonable return time



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    Quote Originally Posted by frijoli View Post
    Take a serious look at Acorn by Centroid!
    +1



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    Default Re: Masso CNC Control Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by barbourj22 View Post
    Do you want to run tandem/parallel motors?
    If so, good luck.

    I gave up on it. A pc with software and a dedicated CNC controller is best.
    I went with the uc300eth and breakout board c62.
    With Mach 3.
    Always buy motors and controller together so they can be tested for function within a reasonable return time
    Mach3 and UCCNC are simple to setup and customizable. The UC300ETH works with both Mach3 and UCCNC and you can switch between the softwares any time. Much more reliable than LPT ports.



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    Default Re: Masso CNC Control Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by barbourj22 View Post
    Do you want to run tandem/parallel motors?
    If so, good luck.

    I gave up on it. A pc with software and a dedicated CNC controller is best.
    I went with the uc300eth and breakout board c62.
    With Mach 3.
    Always buy motors and controller together so they can be tested for function within a reasonable return time
    Acorn can and does tandem. However only 4 axis total right now. (tandem Y, plus X and Z which is 4)
    It is stable and reliable.

    Clay



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    Default Re: Masso CNC Control Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by frijoli View Post
    Acorn can and does tandem. However only 4 axis total right now. (tandem Y, plus X and Z which is 4)
    It is stable and reliable.

    Clay
    UCCNC can also do tandem and automatic gantry aligning using separate home switches on the 2 sides and it can do upto 6 axes. It is very stable and reliable.



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    Quote Originally Posted by OlfCNC View Post
    UCCNC can also do tandem and automatic gantry aligning using separate home switches on the 2 sides and it can do upto 6 axes. It is very stable and reliable.
    Sure, but Acorn was designed, built, and supported by a CNC machine manufacturer with over 30years experience.
    Use what you feel most comfortable with.

    I was only pointing out that there are actual professional boards out there that do tandem.

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    Default Re: Masso CNC Control Issues

    The UCCNC was designed and supported by a company working with CNC controls and designing machine and motor controls since 1999.
    I'm using the UCCNC close to 2 years now on a plasma machine and on a router and they never miss a beat. So I'm comfortable with that.



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