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    Hey guys

    I have a challenge where I am running ncstudio since 2012. Thing is I need to keep packing the PC away because of theft. I am thinking to move to a controller.

    What are your suggestions to go from ncstudio to a controller??

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    Hey guys, no one has experience going from PC based control to an offline controller??

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    With no details of what you have, machine, type, controls or other details it's difficult to make any comments. Perhaps you could use a laptop PC as they are easy to transport. An Ethernet based control would be easy to remove the control PC (especially a laptop).

    What about DSP control systems? RichAuto have a few. The "brains" are in the hand control unit which would be about as easy to transport as a laptop.

    You would likely need to replace the BoB module to suit it though.



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    Quote Originally Posted by he1957 View Post
    With no details of what you have, machine, type, controls or other details it's difficult to make any comments. Perhaps you could use a laptop PC as they are easy to transport. An Ethernet based control would be easy to remove the control PC (especially a laptop).

    What about DSP control systems? RichAuto have a few. The "brains" are in the hand control unit which would be about as easy to transport as a laptop.

    You would likely need to replace the BoB module to suit it though.
    Hey there,

    I have a 1212 3 axis cnc. It runs using NCStudio as a controller. It uses a pci card. I had the PC stolen so I must build a new PC which I have. I am very happy with ncstudio hence never going to mach3 etc. But instead of having to take the PC out the workshop each time I was contemplating a controller.
    DSP? I'll look into it. Tnx

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    @he1957 what would you recommend as a descent ethernet connected controller?

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    Default Re: NCStudio OR Controller

    I'm interested too! Richauto is USB only...



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    All in one with USB usually are poor in G/M code languages and is often an hard job continue to move from PC to CNC with a USB key to place a program.
    I guees the better way is to use a valid CNC board (standalone with interpolator and input management) linked to PC with Ethernet way.



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    Quote Originally Posted by shearder View Post
    @he1957 what would you recommend as a descent ethernet connected controller?

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    The OP was asking about an issue with theft of a PC controlling the machine. The suggestion of a DSP was based on that and the RichAuto control system is very compact. The BoB lives in the power/drive control box but the DSP handset is about the size of an over-sized TV remote control and is easy to disconnect and take home :-)

    The operation and use of the RichAuto DSP is described very badly. It is not a USB driven controller. It has a USB connection to a PC to allow you to transfer G-Code files between a PC and the DSP but it does not function as a CNC control when you boot it to transfer files. After transferring files, you have to restart it as a CNC controller (and then the PC cannot see it).

    Essentially, you use the DSP as a standalone controller and transfer job code between the PC and the DSP with a USB stick you have to keep removing/replacing between PC and DSP. Can be somewhat annoying if you make multiple small changes to your code. Some tricks can be to write the code to use faster movements/RPM but use the DSP to slow the speeds down in real-time to allow for different materials/cutters etc.

    As far as an Ethernet control goes, have a look at the AXBB at https://www.cncdrive.com/AXBB.html

    I'll be upgrading from a RichAuto DSP to an AXBB with an extra BoB for additional I/O channels and Ethernet when I can afford it. I kinda like the DSP but a serious limitation is it does not support parametric programming which is somewhat annoying for multiple parts or incremental cutting. You have to do this for yourself in the code generation.

    There are other Ethernet options out there so perhaps if we knew more of the requirements others can chime in as well.



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    I'd like a controller with ethernet connection to the PC, AND an on-board keypad/joystick at the router, to allow you to edit speeds, plate height etc from the console, like the laser Ruida systems.
    We have an Aussie Tekcel system at the moment- 20 years old- and it's great except for repair costs.
    So I'm looking for a system like it, that also has drives for the servos, where we can plug our encoder leads into them.
    Software and post-processing is no problem- we use an old version of Enroute- but I do need 3D capability.

    I just have not had experience with other controllers, than assorted laser systems, and this Tekcel router one.

    Thanks for any ideas...



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    Quote Originally Posted by he1957 View Post
    The OP was asking about an issue with theft of a PC controlling the machine. The suggestion of a DSP was based on that and the RichAuto control system is very compact. The BoB lives in the power/drive control box but the DSP handset is about the size of an over-sized TV remote control and is easy to disconnect and take home :-)

    The operation and use of the RichAuto DSP is described very badly. It is not a USB driven controller. It has a USB connection to a PC to allow you to transfer G-Code files between a PC and the DSP but it does not function as a CNC control when you boot it to transfer files. After transferring files, you have to restart it as a CNC controller (and then the PC cannot see it).

    Essentially, you use the DSP as a standalone controller and transfer job code between the PC and the DSP with a USB stick you have to keep removing/replacing between PC and DSP. Can be somewhat annoying if you make multiple small changes to your code. Some tricks can be to write the code to use faster movements/RPM but use the DSP to slow the speeds down in real-time to allow for different materials/cutters etc.

    As far as an Ethernet control goes, have a look at the AXBB at https://www.cncdrive.com/AXBB.html

    I'll be upgrading from a RichAuto DSP to an AXBB with an extra BoB for additional I/O channels and Ethernet when I can afford it. I kinda like the DSP but a serious limitation is it does not support parametric programming which is somewhat annoying for multiple parts or incremental cutting. You have to do this for yourself in the code generation.

    There are other Ethernet options out there so perhaps if we knew more of the requirements others can chime in as well.
    Thanks for that info. Ethernet would be great but my workshop is 80m from the house. I really dont want to lay cable and yeah wifi to router etc but adding further points of failure lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by shearder View Post
    Thanks for that info. Ethernet would be great but my workshop is 80m from the house. I really dont want to lay cable and yeah wifi to router etc but adding further points of failure lol

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    You misunderstanding what ethernet is for. Of course you not having your control computer 80 meters away from your machine. LOL.
    You place the computer next to your machine in your workshop with the machine control box connected to the computer via ethernet connection with a few meters of ethernet cable.



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    Quote Originally Posted by OlfCNC View Post
    You misunderstanding what ethernet is for. Of course you not having your control computer 80 meters away from your machine. LOL.
    You place the computer next to your machine in your workshop with the machine control box connected to the computer via ethernet connection with a few meters of ethernet cable.
    OBVIOUSLY but my workshop is 80m away from the house which houses mybrouter and other networking appliances and I dont want another computer in the workshop for obvious reasons.

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