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    Cool My NEW Mini CNC Router Design!

    This is my 2nd attempt at designing a tight & strong mini Router! The first one used unsupported round rails, and they were way too springy to do anything accurate! So I crunched up a drawing in CAD to incorporate a design which uses supported Thompson rails!

    Here is the current design, and the few parts which I have finished so far!

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    For starters, I made the y-axis support plate, it was machined from solid and has two tracks with .1875 Radius machined in the centers to support the rails.

    Each rail has five #6-32 SS SHCS holding the rails in position. The rails were reilled and counterbored using Carbide 4-flute ball end mills, and a flat bottom carbide endmill for the c-bore.

    The 1st problem I had was the warpage in the rails when I drilled the holes, they curled up instantly! The problem was solved by drilling the c-bore first, as the larger end mill went through the case hardened skin of the rails easier. Then I drilled the small hole with the ball end mill. The rail was over heating as the ball endmill went through both case hardened skins!

    After a little straightening on the surface plate with an indicator and v-blocks, the rails are now ready!

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    The next part is the y-axis slide block, it will have to be bored to accept two bronze plugs! This block was fun to build, it was interresting to see if I could bore two holes accurate enough to align with the two rails! After the holes were bored, I turned up some bronze plugs in my lathe, and made them .0005 larger than the bores. Then I placed the bloc in boiling water on the stove, while the plugs were in my freezer! After ten minutes, the plugs fell in the block with a slight press.

    Then I put the block in the mill and bored the bronze as close to the rail diameter as possible without having them bind while sliding!

    The next part of the puzzle was trying to figure out an easy way to add a delrin acme nut to the y-axis slide block! This was bugging me for days, and I had an idea but I kept rejecting it! The idea was to bore a large round intersecting hole through the block, plug it with a chunck of round delrin, then cross drill it and tap it 1/2-10 acme!

    Eventually I accepted this idea, but at first all I could think of was the large bore hole in the block, what would I do if it didn't work!
    Well, it did work, and the big bore filled with Delrin has lightened the y-axis slide block too!

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    Next I need to make the supports on the y-axis slide block to hold the z-axis rails! These are 1/4" diameter Thompson rails, and have the same case hardened surfaces!

    The tracks were easily machined, and the .1250 Radius was added to center the z-axis rails.

    The next thing is to drill and c-bore the small rails to fit five #2-56 SS SHCS!
    The procedure was the same, I drilled the c-bores using a carbide endmill, and then drilled the holes using carbide 4-flute ball endmills 3/32" diam.

    These rails did not distort as severely as the larger ones, and were quickly straightened!

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    wow, looks absolutely great. when you say mini how small? didn't see any dimensions on the drawing.

    Phil, Still too many interests, too many projects, and not enough time!!!!!!!!
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    The next item is the z-axis slide block, it has three 1/8 t-slots to be used for mounting of the spindle! The procedure for making and installing the bronze bushings is the same, and the whole slide block was accomplished in 4-hours!

    The z-axis slide is much smaller, so I decided to use a piece of 3/8-10 acme for the lead screw! The delrin nut will be similar, when I decide how its going to be done!

    While I made these parts, I made enough for two complete units! These slide units are so precice, there is zero endplay, and zero backlash! They slide frreely enough for an 80 oz/in stepper to move them back and forth!

    Eric

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    Quote Originally Posted by pminmo
    wow, looks absolutely great. when you say mini how small? didn't see any dimensions on the drawing.
    Thanks Pminmo!

    The y-axis moves 4.500" and the z-axis moves 2.000"
    The x-axis will move around 6.000"

    Eric

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    Next I made some y-axis side plates with the bearings pressed in for the leadscrew. Also has 4 holes for mounting the nema23 stepper!

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    The x-axis is still using unsupported round rails, because the 1/2 Dia. at 12" length is fairly ridgid!

    The x-axis slide block has been completely redone, it now has four SUPER-8 ball bushings!

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    In order to make the x-axis slide block, I had to order some 7/8" internal spring rings, a special carbide .040 internal grooving tool, and 4- ball bushings for the 1/2" dia thompson shafts.

    after I had squared up the block, I bored two 7/8 dia through holes for the ball bushings, then I used the fancy internal grooving tool in my boring head, and turned the spindle by hand! It was easier to cut a .025" deep groove by adjusting the boring head .005 after every revolution! The grooves were cut in a suprisingly short time!

    Then I had to make spacers to go between the ball bushings, and everything went together really nicely!

    Now I have a smooth sliding x-axis with zero endplay!

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    I used the same concept for the delrin nut, by simply boring a 2" diameter hole in the center of the slide block, and pressing a solid plug of Delrin in the hole! Then I drilled the cross hole and tapped it 1/2-10 acme!

    The leadscrew was turned to the exact distance between bearings, so there is no need to preload, and zero endplay!

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    very nice work , will defantly keep a eye on this thread

    cheers



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    Thank you!

    Tomorrow, I will make the bearing plates and motor mount plate and leadscrew for the z-axis!

    Hope you all enjoyed this post, I sure did!
    Eric



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    This little router is up for bids on eBay!

    Mini-Router on eBay

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    Smart smart marketing!

    Andy

    Drat, imperfection has finally stopped working!!


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    Talking The WidgitMaster has been Busy!

    Due to popular demand, I have been working overtime building four of these little units! I have also documented all the parts in CAD and now have a complete set of detailed drawings! In a few days, these will be finished, and I can jump into the next project!

    With all the emails I have been receiving with questions about larger units, I decided to design a machine with exactly 12" travel in X and Y axis using the same principals and some of the parts from the Mini Router! With one exception, the X-Axis will have a solid plate supporting Tomson Linear rails and a gantry moving on ball bushings.

    The question I have would be the Z-Axis travel? What is a good distance of Z with an X/Y of 12" I would like to use a pair of 6" supported rails, and that would give me around 5" or less travel!

    Any suggestions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WidgitMaster
    The question I have would be the Z-Axis travel? What is a good distance of Z with an X/Y of 12" I would like to use a pair of 6" supported rails, and that would give me around 5" or less travel!
    I'd go with a tight and relatively short amount of travel on your Z-axis. I'm thinking that most people who purchase one of your sturdy metal units will be using them to route/mill PCB's, do engraving in plastic, copper, brass, and aluminum, and maybe wood routing up to around 1 1/2" thick. With that in mind I'd shoot for around 3" (no more than 4") of travel in the Z-axis. In other words, shoot for a little better accuracy and repeatability rather than maximizing the chunk of material you can mount under the gantry.


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    nice assembly
    youll have to set up one of those little babies to carve your logo if you keep the road your on



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    Quote Originally Posted by HayTay
    I'd go with a tight and relatively short amount of travel on your Z-axis. I'm thinking that most people who purchase one of your sturdy metal units will be using them to route/mill PCB's, do engraving in plastic, copper, brass, and aluminum, and maybe wood routing up to around 1 1/2" thick. With that in mind I'd shoot for around 3" (no more than 4") of travel in the Z-axis. In other words, shoot for a little better accuracy and repeatability rather than maximizing the chunk of material you can mount under the gantry.


    Just my twin Lincolns,

    HayTay

    Thanks HayTay!
    I like your logic, and will go with the 4" travel!

    Now if I could only afford a Tormac CNC Mill!
    Eric



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    Quote Originally Posted by widgitmaster
    Now if I could only afford a Tormac CNC Mill!
    Eric
    keep on building those and i think you will be able to shortly ,
    its always nice to see the work of a true tool maker



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