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    Default Re: Mach 2010 screenset, anyone using?

    Quote Originally Posted by PapaLima View Post
    Now that you mention that, in the instructions for 2010 install, there is a change you need to do for the Z axis and I believe it was set to 8. I changed it to 0. And make sure Z down is Neg.
    So I have a little time, finally, to get the screensets working for me. At some point, I talked to Cory at CNCRP and asked about the z axis offset. I did not get a response that helped me. But, when looking at the config for the CNCRP settings, the zaxis home is at 8 inches. You said you changed yours to 0 and reversed the z axis movement, but when doing that, did you have to change anything else for your gcode to postprocess corrctly for the reversal of the z axis? I use the touch plate from CNCRp, the one with corner finding. I might modify the macros for the 2010 screenset to do the same routine eventually, but I am still confused about the basic screenset setup at all and want to get it working how it is supposed to before doing any custom modifications to those macros.

    So I guess my only questions are, how do I reverse the direction of the z axis and do I need to use a different post processor to generate the right gcode for this reversal?

    thanks for any help



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    Default Re: Mach 2010 screenset, anyone using?

    Are you sure their Z axis home position is at 8 inches? That doesn't make any sense.

    When you are moving the Z axis down, does the Z DRO count down? It should, as that's how 99.9% of people's Z axis work. So you shouldn't need to change the Z direction.

    Z Home being zero (top of travel) is the most common, which is why the 2010 macros require it. To prevent the macros from crashing the machine into the top of the travel, it requires the Z Home position to be 0.

    IF you go to Config > Home/Limits, Is there a value in the Z Home Offset? If what you are saying is correct, it should be set to 8 there.

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    Default Re: Mach 2010 screenset, anyone using?

    Mach 2010 screenset, anyone using?-offsets-png I figured this was weird since no-one else on the internet mentions this. I am surprised that the poster who has the cncrp machien and replied to this thread, got it working without throwing something off somewhere. It is set to that.

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    Default Re: Mach 2010 screenset, anyone using?

    All you need to do is change the soft min to -8, soft max to 0, and home offset to 0. Then it should work fine with the 2010 Screenset macros.
    Not sure if CNCRP supplies any macros that require those specific Z axis settings.

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    Default Re: Mach 2010 screenset, anyone using?

    Thanks. I'll send them that question to see if they do. The only macro they have, that I'm aware of, is their touch plate macro attached to the hidden script that executes when pressing the 1024 screen set auto tool zero button. M6 start and end are the default. I'm not sure what the code for ref all is, maybe used with it too.


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    Default Re: Mach 2010 screenset, anyone using?

    The only macro they have, that I'm aware of, is their touch plate macro attached to the hidden script
    FYI, the "hidden script" file is not used by Mach3, it's just a placeholder filename used when using the VB editor in Mach3. Button scripts are saved in the screen .set file.

    There are probably several hundred CNCRP users using the 2010 screenset, and this is the first I've ever heard of this, so I don't think it would be an issue.

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    Default Re: Mach 2010 screenset, anyone using?

    I did not know that. So it's a temporary file that writes somewhere else when saved?
    I was hoping that those users would reply. Only 1 has. He said something completely different than your suggestion. If it works with yours and his suggestion, what does that offset actually mean?

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    Default Re: Mach 2010 screenset, anyone using?

    Yes, if you are editing button scripts, the script is saved in the .set file. HiddenScript.m1s always contains the last edited file, I think.

    The offset is just the machine coordinate settings. Under normal operation, you aren't using machine coordinates, so it should have no affect on anything.
    My suggestion is what I would do, based on the information you gave. I don't know if there are other ramifications, but I don't think so.

    I just no that noone's ever asked me about this in 8 years of offering the screenset.

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    Default Re: Mach 2010 screenset, anyone using?

    Well, so far so good. I've changed the settings to what you suggested. It still does everything as I expect to. Why would they choose that z setting that is so uniformly set across the industry?
    Anyway, thanks for the help. Now I'm testing the rest of the interface and doing the setup. Testing the best spot to make a mounted touch plate.


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    Default Re: Mach 2010 screenset, anyone using?

    Hey Gerry, I bought your screenset over 2 years ago. I stumbled through setup a few times and never fully got it going. Mostly because I would run into something and give up just so I could get back to working. However, last week I decided to get this worked out fully and rediscovered my posts and notes from past tries.
    You were absolutely right about the settings and it does not affect any of my other macros or the machine at all. i still have no idea why avid/cncrp decided on the z axis settings the way they did. It does not matter, your suggestion worked fine.

    Since the cncrp/avid machine does not have a convenient place for a permanent touch plate, especially when using sheet goods, I made a bracket that attaches to the frame at the front right of the machine. Then I used an aluminum rod with a plate attached and offset so the edge of the plate is centered over the rod end and attached with a bolt.
    I grounded the frame of the machine. The rod in the bracket is held in place with a set screw so you can adjust the height of the plate and turn it away from the machine to allow full sheets to be loaded without hitting the plate.
    Now I can adjust the height of it according to the material itself. Since I am touching off of the top of my material, I can adjust the plate to under my touch height setting and expect it to clear.

    After creating a breakout board with 3 m12 4 pin aviator connectors attached to it, I am now able to connecvt 2 touch plates and my probe with an inverting circuit to the 1 input. Grounding the machine also provided me with the ability to not use a clip for grounding. Again, not sure why the frame was not chosen by cncrp/avid as the touch ground. It makes it so much easier.

    Your tool change macro is amazong and time saving. No more calculating by hand. My rotary axis benefits as well. Now I reference the tailstock as my permanent touch plate during rotary cutting. That is the best thing ever on my machine. No more fumbling around and attempting to keep a reference point or manually calculating based off of the difference from z0 and the tailstock z0. I just wish I did it earlier.

    I did modify my post processor for fusion 360 to include the right calls for your macros. I saw a posting from the fusion forums where their PP group posted the fix for an older PP of the default mach 3 PP. I took their changes and included them in my modified PP that fixes rotary issues I was having in the beginning as well as allows passthrough commands to be sent with a comment in the setup. Everything ix coming together perfectly now and it is thanks to you in many ways.



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    Default Re: Mach 2010 screenset, anyone using?

    Glad everything is finally working for you.

    I've probably heard from hundreds of users that said they wished they started using it earlier.

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    Default Re: Mach 2010 screenset, anyone using?

    I too just recently got 2010 up and running. why did i wait so long!!!!?!?!??!?!



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    Default Re: Mach 2010 screenset, anyone using?

    I have been modifying the screenset with screen4 and I bought the psd files from you at some point. I just opened them and there is not a 1920x1080 version of the setup in the files you sent.
    Did you just stretch them to the resolution or do you have 1920x1080 files as well?

    Screen4 is the easiest one to use. The only problem is that none of the menus work and I have not found a compatibility setup that allows them to. I am sure there are deprecated dependencies needed that cannot be used anymore. I was going to use another one of the designers to modify the layout for a different resolution as I build a physical panel for all the buttons. It is a weird resolution that I am going to use because I have a bunch of small 12 inch laptop screens I can repurpose and want to put one inside the physical interface and mount it all on an arm.

    If you just changed the size of the background and placed everything after the fact, I can do that for sure. I just wanted to know what you did.



    Quote Originally Posted by ger21 View Post
    Glad everything is finally working for you.

    I've probably heard from hundreds of users that said they wished they started using it earlier.




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    Default Re: Mach 2010 screenset, anyone using?

    Actually, the widescreen versions were done by other users, many years ago. I would assume that they just extended the background over and moved the tabs.
    The last time I actually did any Mach3 screen editing I was still using XP.
    You should consider switching to UCCNC. Screen editing is much, much easier. (But no less time consuming)

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    Default Re: Mach 2010 screenset, anyone using?

    Quote Originally Posted by ger21 View Post
    Actually, the widescreen versions were done by other users, many years ago. I would assume that they just extended the background over and moved the tabs.
    The last time I actually did any Mach3 screen editing I was still using XP.
    You should consider switching to UCCNC. Screen editing is much, much easier. (But no less time consuming)
    I have the Ethernet smooth stepper setup from avid and I'm not sure they have a plugin for it. I think I'd have to buy a new controller and rewire everything. I wouldn't mind having a newer software. I'm just so deep into mach 3 and just got comfortable with your screen and macros. It would take so long to get back up and going.
    One day, I will change to something else. But, for now I'll play with the background and see what I can do.

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