Taiwan - SYNTEC - 6MB or 6MA - Controller Discussions

[gfacer]

I haven't searched yet, but has anyone worked on a tool change macro that can reassign the tool numbers based on the tool manager in the controller?

Right now, T1 through T8 for my carousel the carousel position = tool number. I can see another screen that says, basically, what tool number is in what MG (magazine I assume) position.....but the current macro ignores.

I think I will have to rewrite the macro to test each carousel position versus the tool number listed on that screen, then feed the results that match up into the old login.

Not 100% I'm going to try this, bit I'm trying to be able to use like 40 numbered tools in my programs and just specify the carousel position at run time.

Any advice in how to manage tools like that would be great.....only alternative I know of is to label the physical holder with the height offset and enter those into the offset table as you swap out tools, checking against the program that the correct tools is in the correct position.

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[gfacer]

I think I have another way to handle this..... probably a better way.

I might post the procedure when I'm ready as it should be suitable for any ATC setup.

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[KRob86]

@FrankMali, as in, Frank Mali from the Mozaik forums?

I own a Syntec 6MB controller. It's on a Stepsmore CNC from China. I have been impressed with it, for the price. But now that I'm having a boot issue, I have discovered how unresponsive Syntec is. The documentation is a mediocre translation with plenty of errors. I've hit a wall with a pesky boot error, which is making me start to curse Syntec.

[TEK208]

Syntec 6MB controller. I am trying to change machine over from rotary tool magazine to linear, I need the clearance for machining deep molds.. I modified a macro for linear tool changer but am having trouble getting machine to recognize it after I load it on machine. Also I could not figure out which parameter # were tied to local and global variables for tool location so went with hard numbers instead of variables. any help getting this machine working would be greatly appreciated. would pay for help if some one was willing.
Thanks , Carl

[IsaacNZ]

Completely new to the CNC world so apologies if this is a trivial question but I keep hitting dead ends with this second hand CNC I purchased a few months ago that runs off a Syntec 6mb controller (cnc is an OMNI 2040 ATC).

The most recent issue im having is formatting the code to operate it.

I have tried making a basic part in Aspire9.5 but the formatting is incorrect when I save it. Using the Aspire default post processor "Syntec Arcs ATC(mm)" the resulting documents format looks like below;


N20G91G28X0Y0Z0
N30G40G17G80G49
N40T0M06
N50G90G54
N60G90G71
N70G43Z20.000H0
........

When really the format compatible (based on what parts were already loading into the machine) look completely different, along the lines of this;

%
N0001 G90 G70
N0002 G40 G80
N0003 G54
N0004 G53 Z0
N0005 G0 X0.0000 Y0.0000
............

Any idea why this default format for Syntec is completely different? Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated, thank you.

[gfacer2]

See this post I use - maybe it will help:

+================================================
+
+ Fanuc 16M Vectric output configuration file modified for Syntec 6m series with ATC
+
+================================================
+
+ History
+
+ Who When What
+ ======== ========== ===========================
+ Mark 22/07/2008 Written
+ Mark 07/09/2010 Added Safe Z definition
+ LRD 01/03/2015 Modified for XYZ Syntec 6MA
+ GFacer 03/14/2016 Changed to Omni Syntec 6m series
+ ===============================================

POST_NAME = "A1 Use this only Omni Syntec 6m ATC Arcs V2.5 (mm)(*.nc)"

FILE_EXTENSION = "nc"

UNITS = "MM"

+------------------------------------------------
+ Line terminating characters
+------------------------------------------------

LINE_ENDING = "[13][10]"

+------------------------------------------------
+ Block numbering
+------------------------------------------------

LINE_NUMBER_START = 1
LINE_NUMBER_INCREMENT = 1
LINE_NUMBER_MAXIMUM = 9999999

+================================================
+
+ Formating for variables
+
+================================================

VAR LINE_NUMBER = [N|A|N|1.0]
VAR SPINDLE_SPEED = [S|A|S|1.0]
VAR FEED_RATE = [F|C|F|1.1]

+-----------------------
+ TOOL MOVES IN X Y Z
+-----------------------
VAR X_POSITION = [X|C|X|1.4]
VAR Y_POSITION = [Y|C|Y|1.4]
VAR Z_POSITION = [Z|C|Z|1.4]

+-----------------------
+ ARC MOVES
+-----------------------
VAR ARC_CENTRE_I_INC_POSITION = [I|A|I|1.4]
VAR ARC_CENTRE_J_INC_POSITION = [J|A|J|1.4]

+-----------------------
+ HOME TOOL POSITION
+-----------------------
VAR X_HOME_POSITION = [XH|A|X|1.4]
VAR Y_HOME_POSITION = [YH|A|Y|1.4]
VAR Z_HOME_POSITION = [ZH|A|Z|1.4]

+-----------------------
+ Z SAFE POSITION
+-----------------------
VAR SAFE_Z_HEIGHT = [SAFEZ|A|Z|1.4]

+================================================
+
+ Block definitions for toolpath output
+
+================================================

+---------------------------------------------------
+ Commands output at the start of the file
+---------------------------------------------------

begin HEADER
+---------------------------
+ ORIGINAL
+---------------------------
+"o0001"
+"( [TP_FILENAME] )"
+"[N] G91 G28 [XH] [YH] [ZH]"
+"[N] G00 G21 G17 G90"
+"[N] G00 G40 G49 G80"
+"[N] G71"
+"[N] T[T] M06"
+"[N] G00 G43[ZH]H[T] M8"
+"[N] [S] M03"
+"[N] [XH] [YH] [F]"
+---------------------------

+---------------------------
+ MODIFIED
+---------------------------
"%"
"( [TP_FILENAME] )"
"[N] G54"
+"[N] G00 [XH] [YH]" edited out start at home GF
"[N] T[T] M06"
"[N] M03 [S]"
"[N] G04 P1000"
"[N] G43 H[T]"
+---------------------------


+---------------------------------------------------
+ Commands output for rapid moves
+---------------------------------------------------

begin RAPID_MOVE

"[N] G00 [X] [Y] [Z]"


+---------------------------------------------------
+ Commands output for the first feed rate move
+---------------------------------------------------

begin FIRST_FEED_MOVE

"[N] G01 [X] [Y] [Z] [F]"


+---------------------------------------------------
+ Commands output for feed rate moves
+---------------------------------------------------

begin FEED_MOVE

"[N] G01 [X] [Y] [Z]"

+---------------------------------------------------
+ Commands output for the first clockwise arc move
+---------------------------------------------------

begin FIRST_CW_ARC_MOVE

"[N] G02 [X] [Y] [I] [J] [F]"

+---------------------------------------------------
+ Commands output for clockwise arc move
+---------------------------------------------------

begin CW_ARC_MOVE

"[N] G02 [X] [Y] [I] [J]"

+---------------------------------------------------
+ Commands output for the first counterclockwise arc move
+---------------------------------------------------

begin FIRST_CCW_ARC_MOVE

"[N] G03 [X] [Y] [I] [J] [F]"

+---------------------------------------------------
+ Commands output for counterclockwise arc move
+---------------------------------------------------

begin CCW_ARC_MOVE

"[N] G03 [X] [Y] [I] [J]"


+---------------------------------------------------
+ Commands output at toolchange
+---------------------------------------------------

begin TOOLCHANGE

"[N] M5"
"[N] G04 P5000"
"[N] T[T] M06"
"[N] G43 H[T]"
"[N] M3 [S]"
"[N] G04 P5000"

+---------------------------------------------------
+ Commands output for a new segment - toolpath
+ with same toolnumber but maybe different feedrates
+---------------------------------------------------

begin NEW_SEGMENT

"[N] G00 [SAFEZ]"
"[N] [S] M03"
+---------------------------------------------------
+ Commands output at the end of the file
+---------------------------------------------------

begin FOOTER

"[N] G00 [SAFEZ]"
"[N] G80"
"[N] M09"
"[N] M5"
"[N] G53 Z0"
"[N] G00 X800.00 Y3075.00"
"[N] M21"
"[N] M23"
"[N] M30"
+ moved finish position at far end of table for loading and unloading GF
"%"

+----------------------
+ OLD FOOTER
+----------------------
+"[N] G00 [ZH]"
+"[N] M09"
+"[N] G00 [XH] [YH]"
+"[N] M17"
+"[N] M30"
%

Completely new to the CNC world so apologies if this is a trivial question but I keep hitting dead ends with this second hand CNC I purchased a few months ago that runs off a Syntec 6mb controller (cnc is an OMNI 2040 ATC).

The most recent issue im having is formatting the code to operate it.

I have tried making a basic part in Aspire9.5 but the formatting is incorrect when I save it. Using the Aspire default post processor "Syntec Arcs ATC(mm)" the resulting documents format looks like below;


N20G91G28X0Y0Z0
N30G40G17G80G49
N40T0M06
N50G90G54
N60G90G71
N70G43Z20.000H0
........

When really the format compatible (based on what parts were already loading into the machine) look completely different, along the lines of this;

%
N0001 G90 G70
N0002 G40 G80
N0003 G54
N0004 G53 Z0
N0005 G0 X0.0000 Y0.0000
............

Any idea why this default format for Syntec is completely different? Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated, thank you.

[Mobel200]

Hello

I have problems starting my controller
Get an error message when loading 20%

I have talked to the manufacturer but have not been able to solve so far…
Any thoughts ?

[xeno108]

Hello,

I just got a job using the Syntec controller. I come from HAAS and MACH 4 background. After a resurfacing of the MDF board, your G54 Z height needs to be adjusted by the amount you took off. (So if you cut down to z-.010, you need to subtract .010 from G54 Z value).

What I want to know is if there's a G code you can use to adjust the G54 Z value directly. I'm not sure if G92 would work because it sounds like it alters machine zero (and I'm not sure how that would effect tool changes, etc).

ie will this code here work:

G91
G10 L2 P1 Z-.010
G90

[hardenix]

Hello, I have the Fusion 360 post. You can communicate..
mail:komadoejderi@outlook.com

[Smiss]

Hi! Does anybody have Syntec ATC postproxessor for Vectric Aspire? Please share it if you have/ Thanks