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    You lose all your swing if you have it mounted across the ways!
    The other thing you must have is repeatability.
    CNC lathes require tool tables and known locations of tools. (it's easy on a mill, the cutting edge is the outside of the diameter so that's all you need to know. On a lathe you need to know where the cutting edge is in X&Z)



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    Quote Originally Posted by pippin88 View Post
    You lose all your swing if you have it mounted across the ways!
    The other thing you must have is repeatability.
    CNC lathes require tool tables and known locations of tools. (it's easy on a mill, the cutting edge is the outside of the diameter so that's all you need to know. On a lathe you need to know where the cutting edge is in X&Z)
    pippin,

    I agree I don't want to loose any swing, just trying out different setup options at the moment. My mentor is going to stop by Thursday night and brainstorm some tool post ideas with me. He has 30+ years of CNC mill lathe experience, it will be interesting to hear what he has to say. Trying to come up with something simple but rigid and functional. This is how I have the tool post mounted at the moment for testing purposes.

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    My C41 board arrived today. Set up Mach3 turn to output PWM step signal and now my output voltage is perfectly stable. There was something wrong with my C6 board for sure. We tried EVERYTHING. One other nice thing with the C41 is that it has CAT 5 out to the VFD. The C6 that I had only had a CAT5 in for the input signal. I just snipped a CAT5 I had laying around and wired it into the VFD and plugged the other end into the C41. Nice and clean and shielded to boot.



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    Got things moving around this evening. Hooked up the motors and did a quick and dirty calibration. She is working GREAT so far!



    A little constant speed action.



    Making a 30 deg point.



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    Looking absolutely fantastic, Matt, may I ask what CAM you're using?

    Thanks for sharing-



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    Quote Originally Posted by DLA_Dezign View Post
    Looking absolutely fantastic, Matt, may I ask what CAM you're using?

    Thanks for sharing-
    Thanks DLA_Dezign, the cad I am using here is simply the wizard built into Mach turn.



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    Ok, thanks for that. I'm looking at what's available for Lathe (CAM) out there and so far the most reasonable thing (for me anyway) is Dolphin.

    Thanks again, and I look forward to see the progress-



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    I need to stop fooling around with the lathe and finishing this thing up. My mentor came over last night. We messed around with various tool post ideas. We have decided to machine a new tool post mount at his place in the next week or so. Probably cast iron or steel. It will have a dove tail and allow for a couple of different setups. He seemed fairly impressed with the lathe, at least a lot more so than when it was in the manual configuration. I have not plowed the tool post into the chuck yet at 3000 RPM. I need to place a big Estop on the front of this thing. I also need to put an external braking resistor on the VFD. The VFD internal braking resistor is not up to par with the rapid speed changes (the TECO manual confirms this and recommends an external resistor). I will get a OVER CURRENT error if i set my deceleration too aggressive when using higher RPM. At the moment I am running around 3000 rpm peak spindle speed. The spindle bearings are staying cool with the Kluber grease. Other then that the C41 board is working well. My set spindle RPM will stabilize with in 1 RPM of actual if I get it 10 or 15 seconds. Started messing around with threading last night. Lots of stuff to play with there, but seems to work as advertised so far.

    Here is a photo I found of my first CNC lathe setup G0704 style from a while ago.

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    Constant Surface Speed test turning a half sphere 1.618" dia





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    Here is a quick video showing Mach turn and my iMachIII P1A-S pendant as it applies to the lathe.





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    Here is a quick test of backlash in Z on the G0602 CNC conversion using Billys kit. I measured .0009" backlash as you can see in the video. I am happy with that. As the ball screw wears in this will probably loosen up a bit more.



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    Here is a little discussion regarding the CNC4PC C6 board output voltage issues. Sounds similar to what I saw.

    http://www.machsupport.com/forum/ind...c,10185.0.html

    I replaced my C6 with a C41 board and it is working fine.



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    You are going to cause me to spend money I don't really have.



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    Quote Originally Posted by bjm323 View Post
    You are going to cause me to spend money I don't really have.
    That's what credit cards are for!



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    Messing around. Ball screw covers.



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    The finish you're getting with that machine is beautiful! Where did you get that indexable toolholder? I've been looking for something like that.

    Regards,
    Ray L.



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    Ray,

    The Indexable tool holder I use is a Phase II AXA wedge style. I got mine from Enco.

    Here is the catalog page.
    http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INPDFF?P...MITEM=890-9636

    I think the web price is around $187 some times you can get 10% off and free shipping as well.

    Enco also sells an AXA set made by Aloris that is probably a little better quality but more money.

    Enco also sells a phase II piston type that's a little cheaper, I believe the wedge type are generally considered a little more repeatable.

    CDCO
    http://www.cdcotools.com/
    Also sells a wedge and piston type AXA tool post set that looks pretty good for under $100.

    Here is the 1/2" Indexable Carbide Turning Tool Set I have been using in the videos.
    Shars
    http://www.shars.com
    http://www.shars.com/products/view/2...rning_Tool_Set



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    Today my friend brought over the tool post mount we discussed a few days ago. This is machined out of fairly hard chunk of cast iron. He said he had about 2.5 hours into it. He squared it up and cut the t-slots for me to use. The ends are sawed off. I need to machine a T-nut yet and drill a few countersunk mounting holes in the bottom of the T-slot. I will also flatten both ends. He machined this on a big CNC that came out of Boeing in Seattle. It will have the option of forward or back mounting as seen in the photos. I thanked him a lot! BYE BYE original G0602 compound!!!!











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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbo442 View Post
    Ray,

    The Indexable tool holder I use is a Phase II AXA wedge style. I got mine from Enco.

    Here is the catalog page.
    http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INPDFF?P...MITEM=890-9636

    I think the web price is around $187 some times you can get 10% off and free shipping as well.

    Enco also sells an AXA set made by Aloris that is probably a little better quality but more money.

    Enco also sells a phase II piston type that's a little cheaper, I believe the wedge type are generally considered a little more repeatable.

    CDCO
    http://www.cdcotools.com/
    Also sells a wedge and piston type AXA tool post set that looks pretty good for under $100.

    Here is the 1/2" Indexable Carbide Turning Tool Set I have been using in the videos.
    Shars
    http://www.shars.com
    http://www.shars.com/products/view/2...rning_Tool_Set
    Thanks much! That's exactly what I've been looking for!

    Regards,
    Ray L.



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