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    Default Fusion on a Mac

    Just thought I'd float some observations that might resonate with other Fusion users on Macs.

    I seem to have ongoing irritating glitches or bugs with Fusion. I have never run it on a PC, so am not aware if these are issues particular to the Mac version or if these are just general Fusion issues.


    - Whenever I have a decent number of "elements" in a sketch, Fusion seems to slow to a crawl... and inevitably crash if I persist in adding elements. I'm not talking thousands... but maybe a couple hundred elements (e.g. gear profile where I have each tooth generated from 10-20 arc sections).

    - If/when Fusion crashes, and I restart... typically my dock icon is gone, and my settings are not what they were.

    - I have reinstalled Fusion (with a diligent, clean uninstall before) a few times, and each time I end up with 2 icons in the dock. One seems to point to the app, and another to a shortcut to the app. Sometimes after a crash, either both icons are in the dock, or no icons in the dock.

    - In general, it "feels" like the "robust-ness" (is that a word?) of the Mac/Fusion combo seems to be getting worse, not better (to me). Maybe it's because I'm "asking more of it" (doing more complex projects), but it sure seems like that shouldn't be the case.

    - I'm wondering if Autodesk is spending adequate time error checking the Mac version? I understand if it isn't the priority of a Windows version, but it's still disappointing.


    Fwiw: I'm running an iMac model 13,2, Sierra 10.12.6, 3.4ghz i7, 32gig ram, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680MX w/2gig, a 3TB 7200rpm drive (not fusion drive).


    Would like to hear what other's experiences have been running on a Mac.

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    Default Re: Fusion on a Mac

    Had the same here - tried loading a dxf into fusion, it came in made up of thousands of short segments and fusion just froze, could not work with it, restart, reboot, no change.

    Im finding zoom is poor at present, very jumpy.

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    Default Re: Fusion on a Mac

    Quote Originally Posted by precisionmetal View Post
    Just thought I'd float some observations that might resonate with other Fusion users on Macs.

    I seem to have ongoing irritating glitches or bugs with Fusion. I have never run it on a PC, so am not aware if these are issues particular to the Mac version or if these are just general Fusion issues.


    - Whenever I have a decent number of "elements" in a sketch, Fusion seems to slow to a crawl... and inevitably crash if I persist in adding elements. I'm not talking thousands... but maybe a couple hundred elements (e.g. gear profile where I have each tooth generated from 10-20 arc sections). This is a work in progres

    - If/when Fusion crashes, and I restart... typically my dock icon is gone, and my settings are not what they were. bug

    - I have reinstalled Fusion (with a diligent, clean uninstall before) a few times, and each time I end up with 2 icons in the dock. One seems to point to the app, and another to a shortcut to the app. Sometimes after a crash, either both icons are in the dock, or no icons in the dock. Bug

    - In general, it "feels" like the "robust-ness" (is that a word?) of the Mac/Fusion combo seems to be getting worse, not better (to me). Maybe it's because I'm "asking more of it" (doing more complex projects), but it sure seems like that shouldn't be the case.

    - I'm wondering if Autodesk is spending adequate time error checking the Mac version? I understand if it isn't the priority of a Windows version, but it's still disappointing. they are testing all the time


    Fwiw: I'm running an iMac model 13,2, Sierra 10.12.6, 3.4ghz i7, 32gig ram, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680MX w/2gig, a 3TB 7200rpm drive (not fusion drive).


    Would like to hear what other's experiences have been running on a Mac.

    thx
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    when you did the install did you do what's in here https://knowledge.autodesk.com/suppo...usion-360.html

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    Default Re: Fusion on a Mac

    The .dxf thing is a pain for everyone they need to speed up getting it fixed

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    Default Re: Fusion on a Mac

    Daniel,

    I had done a reinstall a couple of times, but I was working off a different set of instructions that were not as comprehensive as the ones you suggested.

    I did all that, then actually installed High Sierra, and I'm just now about to reinstall Fusion360 and see how it goes.

    Thanks for sending that link!


    So the DXF "issue" is a known problem? I sometimes bring in gear profiles from a different CAD program and gear design software on a PC (software not available for Mac). I've actually tried extruding into a solid on the PC, bring the model in as a STEP, then project the edges into a sketch. It was the same issue as just bringing in the DXF -- Fusion did not seem to handle it well.

    Do you have any suggested work-a-rounds to try?

    Thank you
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    Default Re: Fusion on a Mac

    The gear thing I worked out for doing a gear from gearotic was to delete everything but one tooth then redrawing it and patterning the tooth You just overlap by one tooth to make sure the alignment is correct, There are a couple of gear plugins for fusion, most of them I have been told are not to the standards what everyone one else goes by, they need the math corrected in them.

    The .dxf problem comes up most weeks many times, it's getting worked on one of the fusion bigwigs said about it in a public post. They have changed how they do update now stuff needs to work almost a 100% of the time not like it use to be half arse they got hammered each update over it, (now just moning about stuff not being added or the old stuff fixed ) now if it's half arse they wont say anything to it's near a 100%. there are non said features in sheet metal what are coming soon but are there already.

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    Default Re: Fusion on a Mac

    Yes... I tried bringing in a single tooth profile and copying -- creating the finished profile was easy that way, however I sometimes need to iterate slightly to get exactly what I want, and that's where the issues are.

    And Yes #2, most gear generating software does not allow super-accurate refinement of the profile.

    I'll do some more experimenting on what I create "pre-Fusion" and see if I can create an acceptable work-a-round.

    Thank you for your input and reply!

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    Default Re: Fusion on a Mac

    The other thing the apple store version of Fusion can have some silly little problems the ADSK store version does not have the same problems I cant rember what they are but when it was suggested for some people to reinstall fusion and get the ADSK store version the problems went away.

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    Default Re: Fusion on a Mac

    I did not use the Apple store version.

    From what I can see (and I'm admittedly speculating here) -- if Autodesk switched from insisting on the "automatic push of updates" (and used a more conventional method of updating the software like a nag window, using the App Store, etc.), then I believe the program would install much more "conventionally" on a Mac.

    As it is, Fusion does not get installed into /Applications (like all other programs), rather it gets installed into /users/<user_name>/Applications. I'm no expert on this, but I believe some of the small/nagging issues may be related to how the OS sees a program installed on the User level vs. the system/root level. Once again... I'm speculating.

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    Default Re: Fusion on a Mac

    That sort of stuff is over my head, it's been said before about it being silly where it's installed.

    It may be correct they do some silly things at times and get hammered for it.

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    Default Re: Fusion on a Mac

    Just browsing through and have one question....

    Why are you using Fusion?
    is it worth the frustration freebie?
    These problems you are squawking were solved years ago on other systems.
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    Default Re: Fusion on a Mac

    Quote Originally Posted by bostosh View Post
    Just browsing through and have one qu
    estion....

    Why are you using Fusion?
    is it worth the frustration freebie?

    $300/yr.... CAD and CAM.

    Does solids, surfaces, basic FEA, and rendering.

    Runs on my 27" iMac natively.

    I can work around the DXF issue until AD solves it (judging by the rate that updates get pushed out, I'm guessing it won't be long)


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    Default Re: Fusion on a Mac

    If you are only a small business or home shop, Fusion is FREE!

    I am honoured to be using such software - a couple of years ago i would not have dreamed i could be designing in 3d and running it on my mill!

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    Default Re: Fusion on a Mac

    I subscribed for 2 years on a very inexpensive "Black Friday Special" a bit over a year ago. The price was fantastic, and I have no issues paying $25/mo in the future for what they are doing.





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