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Richards
01-14-2010, 05:54 PM
One of my customers asked me to choose a 34-size servo motor from Keling for his application. I visited the Keling web site and downloaded the three data sheets - and then the confusion started.

The KL34-180-90 motor lists the KE of the motor as 18.95 V / 100 rpm. In another place they list the max. speed at constant voltage as 3200 rpm and they list the terminal voltage as 90VDC. My calculator shows that 3200 / 90 = 35.555 rpm per volt. In other words, if I multiply 35.555 by 90, I get 3200. If I multiply 35.555 by 80 I get 2844 rpm. Since the maximum voltage of a Geckodrive G320x is 80V, I need to know how fast that motor will turn if I give it 80V.

The same problem exists with the KL34-170-90 motor and the KL34-150-90 motor. The 170 motor lists KE at 18.75V / 100 rpm but it also gives 4200 rpm @ 90V when 4200 / 90 = 46.666. The 150 motor lists KE at 13.36 V / 100 rpm but it also gives 6000 rpm and 90 V which would imply 66.666.

The KT ratings are just as confusing. The 180 motor lists a KT rating of 0.182 Nm/amp but lists constant torque as 1.6Nm and continuous current as 7.8A which computes to 1.41Nm.

What figures should I believe?

When I emailed Keling, they responded asking what my application was. I responded and have heard nothing more from them.

Are they just pulling numbers out of the air or have I made some fundamental computational errors in trying to make sense of their data?

ee_t
01-15-2010, 09:02 PM
Ke V/100rpm should be 18.95 kV/kRPM.
For the KL34-180-90, at 90V this should produce a max speed of 4,750 rpm with no load. At rated torque output, this drops to 3200 rpm.

We can calculate Kt from Ke (here (http://www.aveox.com/DC.aspx)). In Nm this is Kt = Ke * 0.0095. Kt is right at 0.18Nm/A.

I can't say whether Kelings info is accurate, but you can compare your calculations on a very similarly specced motor: ID33000 series (http://www.ametektip.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=196) (or noreg here (http://www.iptech1.com/pdf/mcg3.pdf)).

Richards
01-15-2010, 09:58 PM
Thanks for that help. For several years, I've had an MCG-33004 motor connected to a Geckdrive G340 (modified to be a G320 by removing the pulse multiplier) servo driver sitting on the back of my test bench. Because stepper motors have handled my customers' needs, I haven't spent much time testing the servo stuff; however, a customer wants to use servo motors in a machine that he is building and the local sales office for the MCG products has closed - so I decided to take a look at the Keling products.

The sites that you referenced have the background info that I need to make some valid comparisons.