Results 1 to 8 of 8

Thread: Newbie question about breakout boards

  1. #1
    Registered
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    canada
    Posts
    108
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0

    Newbie question about breakout boards

    I am just researching now on what components to buy before building. So far I leaning towards the Xylotex 4axis kit.


    Can someone explain to me the purpose of the breakout board?

    Can you wire home, limit, estop switches directly to the controller board?


  2. #2
    Registered
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    England
    Posts
    59
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    A breakout board is used to isolate the high current/voltage of your cnc machine from the delicate and sensitive electronics of a computer.

    All your home,limit,e-stop can be wired to the breakout board. You definatly need one, make sure it is opto isolated and not a cheap one on ebay. Which one is up to you.


  3. #3
    Registered
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    canada
    Posts
    108
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    Alright, thanks for the explanation.

    Recommendations on boards to use with Xylotex 4 axis kit?
    If they all require one, why aren't they built into it?
    How does this then connect to the driver board?

    What about this controller?
    http://www.mikebeck.org/cnccontroller1.html
    It says it has the breakout board built in...does anyone have opinions on these?


  4. #4
    Registered
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    England
    Posts
    59
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    One of the main things to do in building something is to read all the info there is available. In this forum there is a vast amount of knowledge in building cnc machines.

    On the web page of the Xylotex 4 axis kit it say's it is plug and play which is ok.
    Lower down it say's

    The stepper motor drive board plays NO role in Home/Limit/STOP switch inputs, or other various I/O, other than to provide screw terminal attachment points for the parallel port I/O.

    If you want these you'll need a breakout board.

    The other controller you mentioned, http://www.mikebeck.org/cnccontroller1.html

    the main concern is:

    3 or 4 axis Unipolar Chopper control.
    Individual or simultanious control of 2/4 Phase Steppers.
    Accepts 5, 6, or 8 wire stepper motors. NOT 4 wire.
    ----------------------------------------------------

    Most modern steppers are 4 wire. Bipolar chopper control is better and faster.

    It all depends on what you want, a hobby machine to play with or a real engineers machine.

    My advice is to read everything you can, I'm building a cnc mill, and have been reading this forum for the past 6 months for info and I'm still not done.

    Buy the best you can afford or buy the best. Well chosen pieces put together to build a project are generally better that buying an 'all in kit' you might end up needing an extra input or ouput to the software and your 'kit' cannot supply this, good money spent gone to waste.


    Hope this helps.

    good luck


  • #5
    Community Moderator ger21's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    Shelby Twp, MI....USA
    Posts
    22,300
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    Most people will tell you that you MUST use a breakout board to prevent frying your PC. But I think if you look around, you'll have a hard time finding anyone. You might find a lot of people who've fried their Xylotex and other boards (usually due to miswiring), but not their PC's.

    Having said that, if you want to add limit switches, relays, or any other devices to help control your machine, a breakout board makes it very easy to do that. The best choice for a Xylotex that I've seen is the mini IO from www.candcnc.com The xylotex plugs directly into their board, where as most other breakout boards would require you to make a custom parallel cable.
    Gerry

    Mach3 2010 Screenset
    http://home.comcast.net/~cncwoodworker/2010.html

    (Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)


  • #6
    Gold Member High Seas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    Malaysia/Australia/NZ/USA
    Posts
    1,126
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    Airbrush -
    I used the cnc4pc board - high quality product (even though I went with less expensive board).
    It gives you good posts for mounting the home/limit etc. Also can use it as the 5 volt enable for your xylotex board.
    Yes, as ger21 said - I did have to make a special parallel cable - but it involved tearing down/stripping a ribbon cable - no drama if you use sharp fingernails and not an xacto blade. Ribbon parallel cables are pretty easy find at the op shops and about a buck -so room for a mistake if they happen.

    I went this route to gang 2 xylotex boards into one controller.
    BTW CNC4PC was fast delivery and good support on email too.
    The slightly outa focus will show the BOB buried under wires!
    Jim
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Newbie question about breakout boards-guts_close.jpg  
    Experience is the BEST Teacher. Is that why it usually arrives in a shower of sparks, flash of light, loud bang, a cloud of smoke, AND -- a BILL to pay? You usually get it -- just after you need it.


  • #7
    Registered
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    canada
    Posts
    1,164
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    If you do go xylotex, the candcnc BOB really keeps things tidy. In fact candcnc can also supply the xylotex stuff and whatever cables. That said, I have a mini-io and remote relay still sitting in the box. It was just easier to wire the home switches directly to the xylotex pin access. The BOB will come into play as I add a few more gadgets.
    Anyone who says "It only goes together one way" has no imagination.


  • #8
    Registered
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    US
    Posts
    712
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    Here is one that is simply used in a loop before the Xylotex. No making a parallel cable here.

    This is what I plan on ordering along with the spindle controller. (Once I get something figured out)

    http://www.cnc4pc.com/Store/osc/prod...products_id=47

    For the price and the added safety, it's very worth it. While I do not own any of the products yet... If you look at the bottom of the page on the products. You will see the manual and wiring guides in good clear language. Very impressed with the products there.


  • Similar Threads

    1. Australian supplier of Breakout Boards?
      By Nigel_B in forum Australia, New Zealand Club house
      Replies: 4
      Last Post: 02-17-2008, 10:32 PM
    2. Low cost Microcontroller development Board and Programmer , Breakout Boards
      By ahmedrehan in forum Product and Manufacturer Announcements
      Replies: 5
      Last Post: 11-23-2006, 04:34 PM
    3. Breakout boards
      By DaPyro in forum General Electronics Discussion
      Replies: 15
      Last Post: 06-23-2006, 02:22 PM
    4. CNC newbie question Servo+driver+breakout board?
      By wolfmetalfab in forum Servo Drives
      Replies: 0
      Last Post: 05-11-2006, 02:43 AM
    5. breakout boards
      By Gads in forum General Electronics Discussion
      Replies: 2
      Last Post: 03-05-2006, 06:39 PM

    Posting Permissions


     


    About CNCzone.com

      We are the largest and most active discussion forum from DIY CNC Machines to the Cad/Cam software to run them. The site is 100% free to join and use, so join today!

    Follow us on

    Facebook Dribbble RSS Feed


    Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.