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    You may also want to do some research on stains and dyes, they work very differently. I've used both and they can be used together with great results.
    There was just an article in Fine Woodworking about using shellac as a conditioner, IIRC.
    I too like transtint dyes, Watco makes very good stains and I like minwax wipe on poly for a final sealer.



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    Quote Originally Posted by bobsch View Post
    As with any finish, I'd try it on a piece of scrap first to check the color.
    Yup. I've got a number of bamboo scraps dyed with a lot number written on them that goes to the formula for the color recorded in my log book.

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    I've never had good luck using any sorts of dyes (or pigments) directly on bare wood. There are a couple things you can do:

    As someone mentioned, there's something called "wood conditioner" that should help uneven absorption. If you google hide glue sizing you can find how you can make your own as well. I've not tried it myself but I've heard pretty good things about hide glue sizing when used with wipe on dyes or stains.

    The other option is to seal the wood entirely with something like shellac and then apply the dyes (dissolved in your finish) over the sealer. Rub with this is that you pretty much need spray equipment to do this.

    The good news is that a $15 door jamb gun does a mighty fine job with this. I usually spray my color (transtint dyes) in Target WB finishes using either a door jamb gun for large areas or an airbrush for smaller areas and it works out very nicely.

    -Andy B.
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    Thanks for the help guys I have a spray gun, small touch up gun and a airbrush.
    I was reading this article in Popular Wood working Magazine it talks about different ways to help prevent blotching experts talking about Wood Conditioner types when to apply..

    Wood Conditioner Confusion | Popular Woodworking Magazine



    Lou

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