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    Weird thing happened with my Viper 200

    Larry;
    Something weird that has never happened before has me concerned !!
    I was changing the tool in the spindle, and for no apparent reason, the Y axis decided to all of a sudden put full power to the servo and rammed the table against my limit.
    Just before this happened, I had tripped the drive by bumping the Y-axis a little too fast with the keyboard ( I should know better), but this has happened before and I just reset the drive by unplugging the power to it.
    I'm concerned as to why this would have happened. Luckly nothing crashed !!
    Dan


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    I think you have a bad connection to the encoder, for a drive to run away.

    You might want to check the cable connections to the encoder, and make sure the cable isn't pinched somethere in the machine.

    Larry
    Manufacturer of CNC routers and Viper Servo Drives
    www.LarkenCNC.com and www.Viperservo.com


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    if the encoder for the DC servo is bad, it is possible for the motor to running
    out until hit the mechanical limit, be careful!

    For the AC servo, like the ac servo using absolute encoder from DMM Tech,
    if the encoder connection is bad, the rotor orientation of brushless motor
    will be wrong, then the motor will sticked where it is, no running out absolutely.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gPiplay View Post
    if the encoder for the DC servo is bad, it is possible for the motor to running
    out until hit the mechanical limit, be careful!
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    It does not matter what kind of servo or type of encoder feedback, it is up to the controller to detect that a position error exists and shut the drive off.
    Whether the servo loop is closed back to the CNC control or an intelligent drive.
    All the systems I use work this way.
    Even in the event an encoder signal is missing.
    Al.
    CNC, Mechatronics Integration and Custom Machine Design (Skype Avail).

    “Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere.”
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    It does not matter what kind of servo or type of encoder feedback, it is up to the controller to detect that a position error exists and shut the drive off.
    All my Viper drives have this feature now (for about 6 months) that if the encoder is dead, the drive will shut down.

    Dan's Viper is an older firmware version (but can be updated).

    Yes an AC servo, Brushless and stepper can't run away if the drive fails, But
    these mills are retrofits using the existing large DC servo's so replaceing the motor is usually out of the question.

    Larry K
    Manufacturer of CNC routers and Viper Servo Drives
    www.LarkenCNC.com and www.Viperservo.com


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    Quote Originally Posted by Larken View Post
    All my Viper drives have this feature now (for about 6 months) that if the encoder is dead, the drive will shut down.

    Dan's Viper is an older firmware version (but can be updated).

    Larry K
    I also have 3 of the older Viper 200 firmware version. What is involved in updating them?

    Tom


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