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    Mini Mill Spindle?

    I'm going to be obtaining a Mini Mill within the next couple months (6"x4"x4"), and I need to find a spindle for it. I know most people use routers, but I have 2 issues with this approach:

    1) Size: I think a router would be a bit large for this machine.
    2) Noise: Routers are extremely loud from my experience, and I'd like to keep the noise down if I could.

    So I'm not sure what this leaves me with. I've looked at some Drywall Routers, which are quite a bit smaller. The one I'm looking at is adjustable between 15k and 30k RPM. Would this be too fast? I plan on routing PCBs mostly, but will do some Plastic and Aluminum as well.

    I'm open to any suggestions, but please try to keep the cost down. I'd be okay with fabricating something myself if anybody has any ideas.

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    dremel tool?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Teyber12 View Post
    dremel tool?
    I'm under the impression from my reading that Dremel tools have excessive amounts of run-out. I'm not sure if this is true, but if it is, it'd make manufacturing PCBs quite hit or miss, imo.


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    Jesse,

    Keling sells a 24,000 rpm spindle for $329.00

    http://www.kelinginc.net/CNCSpindleandController.html

    Jeff...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jalessi View Post
    Jesse,

    Keling sells a 24,000 rpm spindle for $329.00

    http://www.kelinginc.net/CNCSpindleandController.html

    Jeff...
    Thanks. That's a bit more than I initially wanted to spend, but I will seriously consider it.

    Just curious, so that if I run across something I can decided whether or not it suits my needs, what kind of RPMs should I look for for the following things:

    PCB Boards
    Plastics (Delrin, HDPE, etc.)
    Aluminum

    Thanks,


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    I've seen this use for PCB milling in a homebuilt PCBmill; http://www.foredom.com/foundations/s...=H.25&tab=docs

    There are collets up to 1/4 inch I think. You would still need a flex shaft and motor but these things are really long lasting, much tougher than a Dremel.

    cary


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    Quote Originally Posted by packrat View Post
    I've seen this use for PCB milling in a homebuilt PCBmill; http://www.foredom.com/foundations/s...=H.25&tab=docs

    There are collets up to 1/4 inch I think. You would still need a flex shaft and motor but these things are really long lasting, much tougher than a Dremel.

    cary
    I've also seen similar pieces used (same company actually, just a different model), so maybe I'll look into that. The one problem with that is that I just have no clue what kind of specs the motor needs. Maybe somebody can help out

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    The web site lists a few different motors and flex shaft styles. There are different brands also.

    The good thing that I see about them is, with the motor hanging from above, there will be a minimum weight on the z axis.

    I've got one that was my grandpa's and he used it hard. It still works good, got to be over 30 years old. I use it when I don't want to fire-up my air compressor to just run my air die grinder for a few minutes.

    cary


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    For a temporary solution, would something like the following work?

    http://www.instructables.com/image/F...-and-motor.jpg

    Thanks,


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    Well after looking at a few projects, I think that I'm going to make my own spindle. If I source all my parts properly, it shouldn't cost me too much at all. I have a Dremel that I'll use temporarily until this is done, but that should get my by just fine. All I figure I'll need is access to a Lathe, and I'll be in business (and I'm pretty sure I know somebody who has one).

    I found 3 projects in particular that all have aspects of what I would like to achieve with my spindle.

    http://www.mycncuk.com/forums/showth...e-design/page2
    http://www.cnconabudget.com/PaulJonesPCBSpindle.html
    http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate...l.php&lp=de_en

    I do have a few questions, however.

    1) What size collet should I go for? I was looking at an ER-16 Collet for 1/4" Bits. That sound good?
    2) Would a simple shank such as THIS work for what I'm wanting to do? If not, any recommendations?
    3) Where can I purchase bearings for this project for as inexpensive as possible. They'll need to be handle fairly high speeds (20k-30k rpm).
    4) Where can I purchase inexpensive pulleys/belts for the motor as well as the shank?

    Thanks,


    - Jesse


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