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    Something Wrong with my cutting!

    Hello everyone, I just purchased VcarvePro and I wanted too test out one of my little drawings I had made.

    So i designed this small pattern in ProCarve, no more then 15mm long/wide with some cornered edges. I set everything up, previewed the toolpath, was satisfied with how it cut in the preview and decided to save the format as a Sherline NGC to run on my Taig Machine running EMC.

    Well, I imported the code and look great on the screen, I went ahead and previewed the cut on the screen, ok.

    And the final results were not what I wanted. I was making a profile cut, and what I got was it going to one point, cutting my pattern, moving to an end point and cutting the pattern but not on top of each other.

    So for example, instead of having a cut like this ( and going 3mm down it would go like this
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    Three separate cuts, I just want too simply profile something.

    Why? It scared me because my machine almost started too cut my vise. I thought the preview would do as the machine told it too? Why is it telling it different???


    I'm a little worried here.



    -Jason


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    Can you post both the code and the Vcarve file?
    Gerry

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    You guys needs to try and help me, I'm really worried. I hope I dind't buy the program and won't even be able to cut parts

    Here is what the toolpath showed.

    Great, thats what I wanted. But I didn't get that. I got that, or part of that all over the place It would start cutting finish and start making the same cut on the point is just ended.

    Lol, this is going too be really long.

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    Here is what I don't get, how come when it was in EMC. When I hit start, it did what it looked like it was going too do. But then the machine did different, this is what worries me.


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    I need you to post the .crv file from VCarve.

    But, I think you have 3 separate vectors, and you need to join them into one vector.

    If you're display in EMC looks right, but the machine does something different, it sounds like it may be an EMC configuration issue.
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    I think it was open vectors also.

    I took your g-code, converted it to a .dxf, started a new project in Vcarve Pro 4.6, then opened the .dxf file.

    I found it had 32 open vectors (most of that was rapid moves from the g-code when I converted to .dxf), I think what you did was leave an open space between your arcs & straight lines.

    I joined all the vectors like this:

    1) Select all vectors (in drawing view)

    2) Select the button on the left side of the screen "Weld Selected Vectors" this will join everything into 1 part (start position = end position).

    3) After I joined all the open vectors, it created a triangle (like ger21 said = 3 open vectors) I selected the triangle, then Right clicked & deleted the triangle, this left me with the final shape in the screenshot. Is that the shape your after?

    4) Select my tools etc... & let the program calculate/produce the g-code (sceenshot below).


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    Here is your g-code that you posted above plotted in NcPlot, notice the Z-axis moves, all around the part (2nd screenshot below).

    If it was one vector inside Vcarve Pro, I think it would only move in Z-axis in 1 location (X,Y), on a simple profile like that.


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    SpeedsCustom,

    Have you already cut good parts with EMC, before you tried Vcarve Pro?

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    Switcher, it does make sense, I did have open lines and stuff, and I didn't weld the vectors together.

    I have not been able too cut any good parts, because What I had was a Rasta affect and was not intedned for the 2.5 d work, that why i bought Vcarvepro.

    But I was able to engrave words and my first really cool picture.


    I'll com back with updates.

    Thanks,


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    If you have anymore g-code files, save them as a text file (.txt) inside a text editor (Notepad, etc...) then post the .txt file.

    That will save a bunch of scrolling, here.

    Also If you post any files from Vcarve, you'll need to zip them, before posting here.


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    Switcher, I think you were right about the welding and everything else of my first part. I designed it in minutes, without caring too connect everything. How come when I try too weld my piece, it like breaks apart and I then have lines going through my work? Should I weld, them while designing it, one at a time?

    Also, just to prove that everything is ok, and it was my own fault on design.

    Do you remember making that part for me a few weeks ago switcher? You know that bar looking one for my brother RC car, then you wrote SpeedsCustom on it? Well Just to show that the machine and program work together.

    I only profiled it at 1 mm, not the 4.1mm it needed.


    So it does work, everything just needs too correspond with each other, thats all. And this part only had moved on the z on one side, so far. It's looking good, I'm happy.


    I just need too figure out how to profile that 1st piece I did, modify it and continue doing it!


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    How come when I try too weld my piece, it like breaks apart and I then have lines going through my work?
    I'm not really sure, If you weld something together & don't like the result it can be undone "Edit\Undo Boolan Add", or just right click on any unwanted lines & select delete.


    Should I weld, them while designing it, one at a time?
    It shouldn't matter at what time in your designing that you weld the vectors If all the vectors are on the same layer.

    I'll tell you, one of the things I like best about Vcarve Pro is, that you can work in layers. This is important because you can select what specific tool cuts each specific layer. Like in the part below, the top part (layer = Test123) is just an example of a rectangle & 2 circles that are not welded together, notice that it really shows up after the part is cut.

    The bottom part is on 2 sperate layers (I gave them custom names of my own).

    1) Layer1 = "My Profile Cut"

    2) Layer2 = "My Custom Text"

    Once you get the layers thing down it will help you a lot.



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    To add a part to a specific layer, while in the drawing view, right click the object, then at the bottom of the context menu highlight "Move To Layer" & select the layer you want, or create a new layer.



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