AutoCAD or Aspire?

[MychesterCNC]

Is anyone very familiar with both programs? I now have Aspire V.3 (full version, I paid for it) as well as AutoCad 2011 (also purchased). I'm not sure if it was overkill to buy both, but I have them now, and am just learning to use either and to learn CNC machining with a desktop unit.

Does anyone have a strong opinion on which I should concentrate my efforts on learning? Does one do all that the other does and more, or is one more of an industry standard than the other? Or are there strong advantages of one over the other? I dont have any actual jobs in mind, but I want to be able to make parts (hobby type things) with a desktop unit in both 2 and 3D at some point. Is one much easier to learn than the other...?

Any pointers or opinions from someone who is very familiar with both would be appreciated!

Thanks!

[ger21]

If you use AutoCAD to make models or drawings, you still need Aspire or another CAM program to create your g-code. If you're good with AutoCAD, it has far more drawing tools than Aspire, and should be faster. But it can take a long time to learn well, as it has so many features.

Many people use Aspire only, and find they can do everything they need with just Aspire.
And Aspire is probably easier to learn.

I'd say if you don't know how to use either, stick with Aspire, unless you find that it can't do something you need.

[Mike 1948]

If you are going to do mostly hobby/artsy type stuff, I would concentrate on Aspire. If you need close tolerance type stuff use Autocad. Even if you use Autocad you will still need import into Aspire to generate tool paths.

Good Luck
Mike

[lovebugjunkie]

After about two months of using VcarvePro (has same 2d CAD features as Aspire) I do not have much use for my CAD program. I have tried a few times lately doing a hobby project in my CAD program but ended up back in VcarvePro.

George

[Treischl]

If you are going to do purely mechanical work, it would pay to get familiar with the basics of AutoCad. I only say that because you already have ACad. I own ACad, CorelDraw and Vectric. I have moved away from ACad because of their high upgrade costs. I can do all my "mechanical" work in Corel, plus a lot of very "artistic" work easily.

Vectric is certainly a "single" solution. It is particularly strong in the CAM portion of the work. (ACad and Corel do not have any CAM capability at all)

Another consideration is support. In my opinion, Vectric offers the best support in the industry.

As a final thought, you should concentrate on learning the software you have. Since you mentioned you are going to do 2D and 3D work, I would suggest that you spend most of your time with Aspire.

[Monkey_Nuts]

Another consideration is support. In my opinion, Vectric offers the best support in the industry.

Really, lots of people told me the complete opposite of this and I decided to get ArtCAM Express for £99 which I dont expect support for to be honest but it had lots of tutorials within it (bonus!)

[ger21]

Really, lots of people told me the complete opposite of this and I decided to get ArtCAM Express for £99 which I dont expect support for to be honest but it had lots of tutorials within it (bonus!)

Where'd you here that, the ArtCAM forum? I'd like to see some posts from people unhappy with Vectric's support. Because I've never seen any.

[rowbare]

Ger,

They cut the cost to $149 in April from what I can gather: ArtCAM Express - The Small Business Routing & Engraving Solution. They also sell a bunch of modules to increase capabilities.

bob

[ger21]

I was asking where he'd heard that Vectric's support is not good?

I know about ArtCAM Express. They sell all the modules separately, and when you add up the total cost, it's about $3500.

[Monkey_Nuts]

I heard it from previous workmates and friends who had said that it was only supported by the forums and if there was a problem they would rater give a refund rather than help you out!? Dont know how true this is but put me off a little and when I saw Express thought I'd have a go.

I know all the modules add up to an amount but surely you wouldnt need all of them or maybe any of them? I know I'd never use the font thingy for a start

[lovebugjunkie]

I heard it from previous workmates and friends who had said that it was only supported by the forums and if there was a problem they would rater give a refund rather than help you out!? Dont know how true this is but put me off a little and when I saw Express thought I'd have a go.

I know all the modules add up to an amount but surely you wouldn't need all of them or maybe any of them? I know I'd never use the font thingy for a start

That has got to be the biggest line of BS I have ever heard. Two things are very obvious. Your workmates know nothing about their support and your "friends", well lets just say "friends" come in many varieties.
George

Edited to add:

Just did a quick overview of the "Addons" for Artcam express that is listed on their Express page to compare with Aspire. Looks to be over $3000.00 and I am pretty sure other than a Font Creator Aspire can do it all (and maybe more) for $2000.00.

I use VcarvePro so someone using Aspire will have a more accurate comparison.
I did notice it would cost me over $1500 to do in Express what I can do in VcarvePro for $600.

[Monkey_Nuts]

I didnt need all of the features offered in Insignia which I think is what you are comparing as I think thats what Express comes to if you purchase all the modules. I only needed something cheap and cheerful and everything seems ok and pretty easy to use, gonna try cutting something later

That has got to be the biggest line of BS I have ever heard. Two things are very obvious. Your workmates know nothing about their support and your "friends", well lets just say "friends" come in many varieties.
George

Edited to add:

Just did a quick overview of the "Addons" for Artcam express that is listed on their Express page to compare with Aspire. Looks to be over $3000.00 and I am pretty sure other than a Font Creator Aspire can do it all (and maybe more) for $2000.00.

I use VcarvePro so someone using Aspire will have a more accurate comparison.
I did notice it would cost me over $1500 to do in Express what I can do in VcarvePro for $600.