yes please send me the info to email@example.com
Sent PM for part files.
yes please send me the info to firstname.lastname@example.org
Please send file to email@example.com. I'd be glad to give you a quote.
If not awarded please send a dxf or dwg file to firstname.lastname@example.org
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Could you please send a print to Primecuteng1@gmail.com, would love to send you a quote. im just a one man machine shop with no work at the moment. very competitive with a aerospace machining background.
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First, this is not my job I too am just trying to quote it. I have not received any drawings either to quote, I'm still waiting. Maybe they have decided not to move forward, one of the tough things on such forums is there is no closure you do not always know who or if somebody won the bid or what the outcome is so it leaves you wondering a lot where you may have gone wrong such as price, delivery etc.
Asked for the drawing many times but receive nothing so far.
As an update to this thread. I was inundated with quotes or requests for files and often given advice on how to change our part so someone could machine it easier. I did award the prototype stage to Ollin Machine Works in New York. The whole experience has been a disaster. It took over 4 months and me filing a complaint with PayPal to receive the prototypes and the quality of work was awful with a whole feature forgotten. I had also awarded them 4 other prototypes for exhaust flanges which unfortunately I paid for with a check. Here it is almost 5 1/2 months later and no parts.
My advice to people requesting quotes on this board:
1. Exhaust local machine shops first. I was surprised at the number of machine shops I found local to me running state-of-the-art machines with very competitive pricing.
2. If you go with someone off this board I would recommend using a Credit Card or PayPal. You have recourse with these companies if parts are not produced.
3. I'm sure there are probably many honest business men and woman on these boards. I guess that I picked one of the bad apples. The few bad apples make it harder on everybody else.
4. If you do request a quote then absolutely do not do business with Dean Mortera of Ollin Machine Works LLC located in Brooklynn, NY. He is either incapable of producing either the most basic parts or he is just a dishonest person taking people's money with no intention of delivering.
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thats to bad. i would like to add to your advice of using credit-cards, or pay-pal. i have had a bad experience where i used pay-pal to pay for something. i funded the purchase directly from my personal checking account. i never received my item, and filed a claim with pay-pal. pay-pal contacted the seller, and informed him that if he could not provide a valid tracking number they were going to refund my money. the seller then waited untill the time-frame to file a dispute was almost over, and shipped me a box containing a telephone book! (not what i had paid $500 for!). but it allowed him to file a valid tracking number with pay-pal. by the time i recieved it, the time allotment for the claim, or any further disputes had passed, and because he provided a valid tracking number they closed my original claim in his favor. i was out $500! my point is always fund with a credit-card. they will actually protect you. pay-pal's support is a joke at best!
Wow guys..... bad times. And to think I feel like I friggin idiot because I'm a week behind on something due to a totally foolish error... and ordering a tool gone MIA. Well, I'll still feel like an idiot anyway, but you guys are picking the wrong offers or something.
Thing is, you might get a better price on here than local. It just depends. But with what you guys are saying, it sure would scare people. I know around here the other shops would do a good job, but on certain things, I could blow them out of the water on price. Just depends on what it is. Just saying it doesn't hurt to test the waters online.
It can go the other way too. I've had a couple people that I offered quotes to that will come back and say, "I have a quote for $x.xx. If you can do $0.50 cheaper, I'll give you the job." And, sorry, but can not play that game, especially since I am often on the low side anyway.
I know there are a lot of hobby guys on here, and may or may not have experience. But, when they do it as a hobby, one must wonder how it may be handled, though I expect many are more professional about it than I am. And, some seem to quote cheap for the simple fact that it is a hobby. Some of us others use machines that consume more power in 1 hour sitting idle than those little benchtops do in 12 hours of solid use. So, no, I can not compete with a benchtop hobby guy doing it for beer money, even though I may be able to remove material 100 times faster.
Anyway, in my long-windedness, maybe when there is harder pushing for lower price, some of these guys find they jumped in over there head. I've goofed on a quote before too, stupid mistake, probably came out to $15/hour. But, it still got done, and that is the way it is suppose to be.
There needs to be a feature here exclusively for customer input, good and bad. I have a current customer who used Ollin and paid in advance for a few thousand pieces of crap. I believe they outsource work to 3rd world countries, hence the long lead times. There are a lot of Chinese machine shops masquerading as being in the USA and middle men playing like they are machine shops in here. That is where most of the bad work comes from.
my experience i mentioned had nothing to do with CNCzone. or any machine shop. i just bought something from an individual over the internet. i was just using it as an example to show people not to count on paypal to step up to the plate and right any wrongs.
now, not to turn this thread into something its not, dualkit brought up a very good point. and i wish more people would take value in an established business's, or individual's integrity. piece of mind is worth alot in my book! everybody is looking for cheap-cheap-cheap. well that savings comes from somewhere, and most times its customer service that suffers first! you get what you pay for will always ring true in my mind.