LOL... This makes me think of the Master Card moments. The industry is not what it used to be. Specially not in Michigan, I should know growing up in Chicago. Trust me no Cnc programer makes 10-15 an hr or least I would like to think so. All the same like in any industry, you will have people that have not desire to better them selfs and you will have go getters and those I know, are not making 15 bucks an hr.