My company just purchased an X4 Speed Master and it arrived this week, and it didn't come with a manual. Emails to support go unanswered and deleted without being read. Does anyone have a manual for this machine they can email me? Also what interface are you using to talk to the machine?
When I got my SX3 there was no manual. There is a parts list/diagram and the general disclaimers, but I think that taking it out of the box and get it up and running is taken for granted. Including connecting some wires that come unhooked, at least in my case.
Syil America has some getting started stuff... here http://www.syilamerica.com/support.asp
If it is anything like the SX3 the first thing is to take it apart, clean it throughly, and re-lube it. This includes the Z axis as well which is not something mentioned on the link above. Note that the grade of the lubricants in the shipped unit is no indication as to what grade you might want to use.
A lot of headaches can be avoided that way.
The machine is controlled from a parallel port interface. People use a PC running Windows XP or Windows 2000 to do that. I do not think people use Vista. The most common software on the PC side to control the mill is Mach3.
If this all sounds very alien then go over the docs on the Syil site and then read the Mach3 Mill manual http://www.machsupport.com/
After that things should start to clear up... slowly at first then it picks up
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BTW, Syil America, as well as a few other dealers are in China for a show. Not sure how long the will stay.
Glad I read this post. The speed master was one of the machines I was considering and now I think I can scratch it off the list.
Hope it works out well for you.
BTW, how do you edge find parts at 8000 rpm's?
It is not like getting a printer...
I can not say with certainty, but I imagine anything at this price level will require a similar amount of tweaking because that is where the economy comes from... meaning you do some of the work.
I also think that the amount of hand holding a vendor can provide at this price level is not that extensive before they find themselves working for free or paying to work.
If you can afford, and if it is worth to you, you can get a more expensive level of machine which means you are paying for someone to do that work (or extra engineering), for the costs associated with a more personal treatment, and for an additional set of capabilities.
It is like getting a table saw and hope you will turn square straight clean cuts just because we put X amount of money into it. It does not happen. If you spend 10-20K and get a panel saw with a scoring blade it increases your chances. Still you will spend a good amount of time setting it up, tuning it and getting to know it. Same with a mill, but with more variables.
The SX3 seems to give nice results once tuned, I would imagine the X4 does as well.
I can tell you that although at times I have vented in this forum I believe that the SX3 (and probably other machines Syil puts out) represent a fair and honest value for your money.
In my research I found that if you want spend twice the money there is the Tormach. If you want to spend 5 times the money then you can get a small entry level tool room Haas. I believe these are pretty much the price points for this side of the spectrum. With each one you will get not only a more capable machine, but a smoother ownership experience... one would hope anyway. In all cases, be prepared to spend an additional 50% to the machine price on other costs like tooling, accessories, and other equipment, unless you already have those or manage to get by without.
Sorry if you already know all of this.
Peace
Last edited by Ed from NY; 07-18-2009 at 08:07 AM.
just to let you guys know i am currently in china working with the factory on the manuals for the syil machines. I hope to have them ready in the next few days, these manuals will include full wiring diagrams, copy's of the full CE certification.
I have made the trip to china to see the progress, and i am once again impressed with the factory and all of the employees. In regards to any issues that have been raised by any customers they have been translate loud and clear. I and Richard (syil America), and Andrew (syil Germany), and had many meetings and have left our meetings very happy.
in regards to the speed master please email me directly and i can help you while i am in china with the engineer. also i have the proper profile for mach3 , which is specific for the speed master.
i will be back in canada on the 25th feel free to call me directly @ 403-400-7945 or you can contact me in chna for the next few days @ 15168561160
i currently also own a speedmaster, to date it is my favorite macheine, VFD controlled spindle, water cooled spindle, force air spindle (to keep chips out of the spindle) and the spindle is completely balanced. due to these facts we used the speed master 8hrs per day and the spindle does not even get hot.
we do production with the speed master, the second we put in and used it instead of the x4 regular, we 7times our production. the increased spindle speed allows us to cut titanium @ .06 thou @ 35 to 50 inches per min with a .250 4 flute carbide coated roughing end mill.
any questions let me know,
keith
.Originally Posted by syil canada
i know that richard left today, and is still not home yet. you should be able to get a hold of him tomorrow. again any problems feel free to contact me direct.
keith
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